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Re: my wife has clinical depression.
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2012, 07:00:40 PM »
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Re: my wife has clinical depression.
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2012, 07:39:49 PM »
Here goes wish me luck. Calm calm

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« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2012, 07:46:55 PM »
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Re: my wife has clinical depression.
« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2012, 07:55:53 PM »
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« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2012, 09:21:08 PM »
Right kept calm started out a bit harsh .now we are going to bed .her heads hurting and wants to die.but now admite she is not well.gave her a cuddle and she broke down.

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« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2012, 10:13:10 PM »
Well still no better of but she wants me to look after her tomorrow.but she wants to stop the meds and counseling as she.thinks.they are.putting things in her head.tried to talk her out of it.but she.wants out.she did.say that she wonders why she.can't do nice things for me.weird. kept telling her I love her and the kids need her .the future she needed a bath to sooth her washed her back which she has not asked me to do for months.really think she is struggling.she also said at Xmas when I was off she felt good.she has a shrink appiontment tomorrow in oxted she can face it as not taking the night meds and fears what reaction she will get.as she is making plans.fear I may have pushed a bit hard with my point.I'm not leaving my kids .but I said if u want to find your self u will not be living here.but left it to her.really no better off .but took all your advice.I cant see where this is going but I'm hanging on by finger tips.thank u all.need to report to u all as feel comfortable with all your advice .thank u again.

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« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2012, 12:00:17 AM »
Tarle, your doing well. She needs to keep that appointment, go with her. My wife came to my first appointment with the Psychiatrist and it was beneficial as she could rmember things i couldnt (as I was such a mess..). Plus the professionals get to see how your coping and can hopefully offer family therapy/Interventions. Good lcuk over the next few days. Your in my thoughts and positive vibes from me.
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« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2012, 12:15:13 AM »
Will try again in morning I was taking her and going in which she denied me contact with.patient confidentiality crap.so we will see.don't think she tells the whole truth about her fears and feelings.and suicide.are the thoughts really that bad .and she always has major head aches.I'm frightened really think she can do it.just can't see a lift in the mood even after 9 months only when she pretends as I found out over Xmas false hope.did u fall out of love with your wife while depressed.I get mixed signals.

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« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2012, 07:36:11 AM »
Well managed to get her to go but she wants to tell them she does not want anymore help from them.but should be able to talk her out of that also.seems like is going the same way as it started.the more help she gets. The worse she gets.or the more people care the angrier she becomes.she wants everything to be normal again.just plodding along but that can't be done .I can see her being put away again.

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Re: my wife has clinical depression.
« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2012, 08:06:22 AM »
In a way that sounds positive, its actually natural for those of us that are depressed to get very angry at times, sometimes we dont even know why :(

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« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2012, 08:12:13 AM »
I am not an expert but i do suffer with depression.  I know the first episode I had I was so frightened, thought I would never feel normal again.  I know it must have been very difficult for my husband, I know I was hell to live with, he must have felt so useless, not knowing how to deal with this crying shaking woman.  I remember hating the way I was worrying everyone, I have the same feelings this time.  I cry and say you shouldn't have to put up with this.  Maybe your wife is feeling this way too.  Its a horrible illness, you just feel so awful and out of control.  I remember the first time I sought help, I wanted the meds to work like a pain killer and just take it away, of course it doesnt work like that.  It takes time and sometimes you can feel worse before you feel better and thats hard to deal with and understand.

Even harder is that you sound as if you have young children, I was lucky in a way mine were older.  Don't know how I would have coped if they were small.  She maybe feels she is letting them done too and beating herself up about that too.

Hope the appointment goes well today, I think you are being great and very supportive of your wife.

Take care and look after yourself too.

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Re: my wife has clinical depression.
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2012, 01:23:25 PM »
Terle your wife is saying a few things my partner said to me;

1) : she did.say that she wonders why she.can't do nice things for me.weird It is weird that they both said this. I remember my partner finding it weird that she was saying it when she was saying it and I also found it both a weird thing to say and that she found it so weird herself if that makes sense. When ever I asked my partner why she felt things she only ever answered with 'dunno' so I can't actually help us here. Perhaps other depression sufferes can help us out with this one. I assume it is because she can not think in that kind of 'thinking of others' way? It seemed to be the effort and judgement behind trying to think of something another person would like. Depression can be a very selfish illness.

2) You describe that she pretended over Christmas and gave you false hope. This happened a lot to me also. I think in a way though you have to believe in the pretence. Inside she is wondering why she is not able to feel the way she used to and was happy doing, so she acts this way instead. So in a way the acting part is good because it is the her she wants to be, and the her she wants to be is obviously a happier one with you.

3) The worse she gets.or the more people care the angrier she becomes.she wants everything to be normal again I believe here it is the drawing attention to the problem that is so difficult for her. She is both a burden and a stranger to herself and for other people to have noticed that and be moved to try to help her she feels more of a failure to herself. When she says she 'wants everything to be normal again' she DOES! But alas it is not and it is this that she is not coming to terms with. I think she has an element of depression denial.

I believe my partner had and still possibly has, a very strong case of depression denial. Because she felt like an emotionless failure she believed she was one, and based many majir life changing decissions on those feelings. I could not tell her that she was experiencing symptoms and they were not the real her, she believed them becuase she felt them. She truly believed she had changed. I believe she is still in there somewhere, but no matter how much I try to make her see it, she believes she has changed. She went from a happy, bubbly, relaxed, loving, positive, generous, thoughtful person.. to a selfish, unloving, neglectful, down, negative, dispairing person and rather than thinking (and listening to people saying) 'wait a minute, this doesn't feel like me, I must do everything I can to get back the lovely life I once lived...' she instead thought.... 'Well..this is me now, that means I'll have to leave my loving relationship, move out, buy my own place and die a spinster with a dog' --she actually said these words to me 'I'll have to die an old spinster with a dog!!!!!' I COULD NOT BELIEEEEEVE IT!!!

My advice is that you are doing a brilliant job. Keep reassuring her that she is suffering from an illness that is making her feel differently but she need not believe that is actually who she is now, those feelings are simply a reflection of her illness, NOT a reflection of her. Tell her that you can still see the real her and want to help her to feel like herself again but she needs to trust that this is only a temporary state and getting back to her old self is achievable.

You mention that you can see where this is going and you are holding on by your finger tips. Explain to me what exactly you mean by this.

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Re: my wife has clinical depression.
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2012, 01:45:39 PM »
I believe I may be able to shed some light on point one, but its only my opinion.

She wants to do nice things for you but cant. I think whats happening here is a little of what happens to me. I run baths for rachel and make her tea when she gets in, but at times (especially recently) its simply not possible to do them. Im too wrpapped up in my own feelings such as 'why is this happening to me?, why cant I be more normal' and I begin to shut down. All non essential activities stop whilst I try to make sense of something that makes no sense. It doesnt occur to me that Im safe in my environment and the only one who can see me in such a state is her. I simply want to get back to how I was and I cant. When I get small moments of clarity I see Rachel sitting there doing her knitting and I wonder why she has made my supper, made my tea, run my bath - I should be doing those things because I love her and want to make an effort. This leads me back to my feelings as above and the cycle starts again.

In short, she is aware of the fact that she cares about you and wants to do things for you, as you do for her...but she cant because of how she feels and that in tur makes her feel worse. She cant break the cycle.

A suggestion may be to explain that you realise she cant do these things right now, but when she gets better you will let her spoil you for a day. Take you to dinner, the cinema or even just make your supper and run you a bath. Tell her that its unreasonable to expect to do those things right now because she is ill, and simply being there is enough for you. Tell her you will fight as a team and get your lives back. It may not be the same as before because she now has a long term illness. Explain that its no different from diabetes - its just a case of making adjustments so you can live with it not against it. Tell her its ok because you can make a new life together and that the depression need not control things. Acceptance of the limitations the ilness can cuase is the first step to recovery.
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Re: my wife has clinical depression.
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2012, 02:09:25 PM »
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« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2012, 04:57:55 PM »
Thanks again friends.well been a strange day like nothing I said or she said was said ....but she came clean to the shrink .so they increased cetrilpram to 40 and now has tamazopram for the night time.but she keeps getting like she says a hang over.so got her in the bath to relax for a bit while I do dinner.and she has held my hand loads had a bad dinner out but at least we moaned together.and done a cross word puzzle with her even thought I can't stand them I got through it lol.