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Fun Stuff / Moose
« Last post by Pip on October 03, 2025, 08:07:43 PM »
Two goober moose hunters are flown into a remote lake in Alaska. They have a good hunt, and both manage to get a large moose. When the plane returns to pick them up, the pilot looks at the animals and says, "This little plane won't lift all of us, the equipment, and both of those animals. You'll have to leave one. We'd never make it over the trees on the take off."

"That's baloney," says one of the hunters.

"Yeah," the other agrees, "you're just chicken: we came out here last year and got two moose and that pilot had some guts: He wasn't afraid to take off!"

"Yeah," said the first hunter, "and his plane wasn't any bigger than yours!"

The pilot got angry, and said, "If he did it, then I can do it. I can fly as well as anybody!"

They loaded up, taxied at full throttle, and the plane almost made it, but didn't have the lift to clear the trees at the end of the lake. It clipped the tops, then flipped, then broke up, scattering the baggage, animal carcasses, and passengers all through the brush.  Still alive, but hurt and dazed, the pilot sat up, shook his head to clear it, and said, "Where are we?"

One of the hunters rolled out from being thrown into a bush, looked around, and said, "I'd say about a hundred yards further than last year."
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The Lounge / Re: Members birthdays
« Last post by Pip on September 28, 2025, 10:35:21 AM »
 :happybday: middleagedmaninlycra
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The Lounge / Re: Members birthdays
« Last post by Amanda_George on September 28, 2025, 05:08:00 AM »
It's your turn today, middleagedmaninlycra!
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The Lounge / The bloody history of church 'saved' by expert engineering, including ....
« Last post by Pip on September 26, 2025, 12:32:07 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15132741/Gruesome-history-church-saved-expert-engineering-medieval-building-survived-Great-Fire-London-fell-burials-undermined-it.html

The bloody history of church 'saved' by expert engineering, including fishmonger who met nasty end and a woman beaten to death

By HARRY HOWARD

Published: 12:28, 25 September 2025 | Updated: 00:35, 26 September 2025

If anything typifies London's juxtaposition of old and new, it is what is left of All Hallows Staining in the heart of the city.  Incredible photos yesterday showed how the 14th century tower of the former church has been balanced 45 feet above the ground as a project to build a gleaming new development around it continues.  But similarly remarkable is the history of All Hallows itself, a church which centuries ago would have accommodated Londoners terrified by the deadly plague as its graveyard likely filled with its myriad victims.    Originally founded in the 12th century, when churches were typically made of wood, the 'Staining' part of its name comes from the fact that All Hallows was built with stone.   Its graveyard was excavated by Museum of London archaeologists before construction work on the new development named Fifty Fenchurch Street began.  Experts found and then moved more than 2,800 burials dating from the 12th century through to the 19th century, whilst Roman-era artefacts including bits of pottery were also found.   And according to Cambridge University's incredible 'Murder Map' project, a repository of murders in the capital in the medieval period, two savage killings were committed near All Hallows in the early 14th century.  In the first, carried out in 1322, a woman was found to have been battered over the head by a couple who wanted her good quality clothes.  The second murder, in 1336, was of a fishmonger stabbed to death by his mistress, who then fled the scene.   All Hallows would go on to survive the Great Fire of London in 1666, which wiped out more than 13,000 homes and 89 churches.  But the sheer number of burials around the church is the key factor that is believed to have sealed its fate.

In 1671, just six years after it survived the Great Fire, All Hallows with its foundations thought to have been weakened by the digging of graves collapsed.  Although it was re-built soon afterwards, the church only survived until 1870, when all its buildings apart from the surviving tower were demolished as the parish was merged with the adjacent St Olave Hart Street.  The tower used to be outside the front entrance of Clothworkers' Hall, but after the damage wrought by Second World War bombing, the area was cleared and 1950s office blocks sprang up around the remains of the church.  As part of the current redevelopment, other buildings on the site including the historic Clothworkers' Hall and the church hall of St Olave Hart Street have already been demolished.   The project was opposed by Historic Royal Palaces, which manages the Tower of London.  They argued it would block protected views of the Tower.  The 36-storey tower, which is replacing a seven-storey office block that has been occupied by the Clothworkers Livery Company for almost 500 years, aims to realise a goal for 'a greener, more environmentally sustainable Square Mile'. 

It will contain state-of-the-art technology and amenities, with its tenth floor providing a 360-degree 'public realm experience'.  The plans also include an underground livery hall, ground-floor shops, 62,000 square metres of office space and a public garden roof.  The project is being undertaken by Axa IM Alts, the investment arm of the French insurance company.  All Hallows' tower was balanced on stilts above a 60,000 square foot excavation site, out of which more than 125,000 tonnes of earth were removed to make way for the new office building.  The church tower was first underpinned to protect the structure and then a shaft was excavated around it so it could be filled with reinforced concrete to create a slab.  On the underside of the slab are four plunge columns going deep into the ground.   They maintained structural integrity while the area beneath the church was excavated.  It is set to remain in its current state of 'suspension' for around a year.

Construction of the development's basement levels will eventually reunite the church tower with ground level to form part of a new green public space

CGI images of the finished project show the tower standing at the base of the envisaged new glass building, with lights illuminating its arches.  A 'bottoming out' ceremony took place on Tuesday.  Howard Dawber, deputy mayor of London for business and growth, who was in attendance, said: 'Fifty Fenchurch Street is a remarkable project and I am delighted to attend this unique ceremony that marks a significant construction milestone for this 36-storey flagship development.  Development projects like this one in the City of London highlight our capital's position as a world-leading destination for leading businesses to invest.'
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The Lounge / Re: Members birthdays
« Last post by Pip on September 26, 2025, 12:15:48 PM »
Happy Birthday Pablo269 and also alex260993!
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The Lounge / Re: Members birthdays
« Last post by Amanda_George on September 26, 2025, 08:31:35 AM »
:bdayballoons:  Pablo269 and also alex260993!
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Pagan/Heathen / (Belated) Mabon 2025
« Last post by Amanda_George on September 25, 2025, 12:19:22 PM »
I hope all the Pagans out there enjoyed their Mabon celebrations on Monday and you took it easy on the Mead?
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The Lounge / Re: Members birthdays
« Last post by Amanda_George on September 25, 2025, 06:48:52 AM »
I'm so sorry I didn't announce your birthday on Monday, isserley!  My internet connection died on Friday afternoon and didn't come back up until bedtime yesterday, so I'm playing catchup this morning!  I hope you enjoyed your special day?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15129457/giuffre-family-urge-organisations-cut-ties-sarah-ferguson.html

Virginia Giuffre's family urge US to follow 'commendable' British charities and cut ties with Sarah Ferguson

    Read our Mail On Sunday World Exclusive here

By MATT STRUDWICK, NEWS REPORTER

Published: 14:48, 24 September 2025 | Updated: 15:12, 24 September 2025

Virginia Giuffre's family has urged US organisations to follow British charities' 'commendable' example and cut ties with Sarah Ferguson.  Yesterday, the Duchess, 65, was dropped by seven charities, including the Teenage Cancer Trust and British Heart Foundation, after a fawning email from 2011 to her 'supreme friend' Jeffrey Epstein was leaked to the Mail on Sunday.  The family of Ms Giuffre, who claimed she was abused by Epstein and trafficked three times to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was 17, praised the move.   The Duke of York has vehemently denied the claims.   Ms Giuffre's brothers, Sky Roberts and Danny Wilson, urged the US to 'follow the example' and 'take meaningful steps to protect the vulnerable and uphold justice'.

As pressure mounts on the duchess, she was forced to come out and claim she was being threatened and was trying to appease him out of fear over what he might do to her family.  Her spokesman James Henderson said yesterday that the late sex offender threatened to destroy the York's family in a 'chilling' phone call after she gave an interview publicly disowning him.  Epstein was apparently raging when she called him a paedophile in public and cited accepting £15,000 from him to settle her debts as a 'terrible, terrible error of judgment'.  In the emails, the duchess 'humbly apologised' and told the sex trafficker she was aware that he would 'feel hellaciously let down by me'.

Mr Henderson claimed her fawning email came after a 'chilling call' in which a 'menacing and nasty' Epstein threatened to 'destroy the York family' in 'a Hannibal Lecter-type voice'.

'The pressure she was put under to protect her family must have been huge,' he said.

'And this was long before the Duke's life had been ruined by his association with Epstein. Her family and her children will always come first.'

Meanwhile, today, Prince Andrew broke cover for the first time since the news of his ex-wife's email to Epstein was unearthed.  The duke was spotted driving his Range Rover away from his Windsor mansion with a male companion in the passenger seat.    The Duchess of York received backing yesterday by football WAG Lizzie Cundy, who told of speaking to the Duchess amid the fall-out from the email revelations.  Ms Cundy, 57, the TV personality and former wife of ex-Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur footballer Jason Cundy was questioned about the Duchess's feelings by Channel 5 presenter Jeremy Vine on Tuesday morning.  The programme guest said of Fergie: 'Well, she's obviously devastated there is no one more sorry today than Sarah Ferguson.  She is regretful, she wishes she'd never met Jeffrey Epstein, but there are reasons why she sent that email.   The fact is, he was enraged that she'd publicly condemned him he was absolutely beyond, saying, 'I'm going to get revenge, I'm going to ruin your family'.  It was threatening, it was very dark and she felt she had no choice but to try and appease him she was scared for herself, for her family.  You have to think, he was probably the most powerful man on the planet, or the richest man.  She was fooled by him, like many others were like the Clintons, like Peter Mandelson, many others.'

The host raised how Cundy had spoken to the Duchess 'in the last 24 hours' while putting to her how Epstein 'was a convicted paedophile'.  Ms Cundy replied: 'He was. It's wrong. She's very, very sorry. But the fact is, when she did condemn him, she did publicly, it got very, very nasty.  'He got huge lawyers on to her as well she thought it was going to be embarrassing not just for her own family but the rest of the Royal Family and she felt that was the only option she had.'

It comes as Princess Eugenie this week launched a campaign against children who are exploited in fast fashion.  The warned co-founder of The Anti-Slavery Collective 'modern slavery hides in plain sight' as the royal said: 'This couldn't be more true than in the case of counterfeit fashion.  A fake handbag or football shirt may look harmless, but it often carries with it the fingerprints of exploitation.  The Anti-Slavery Collective is determined to make sure consumers understand the true cost of these items, and to call for greater accountability across supply chains.'
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Fun Stuff / Three Little Pigs
« Last post by Pip on September 22, 2025, 07:13:57 PM »
A teacher was reading the story of the Three Little Pigs to her class.  She came to the part of the story where the first pig was trying to gather the building materials for his home. She read, "And so the pig went up to the man with the wheelbarrow full of straw and said: 'Pardon me sir, but may I have some of that straw to build my house?"

The teacher paused then asked the class: "And what do you think the man said?"

One little boy raised his hand and said very matter-of-factly, "I think the man would have said, 'Well, what do ya know?! A talking pig!"
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