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The Lounge / Re: Members birthdays
« Last post by Pip on November 30, 2023, 06:58:15 PM »
Happy birthday, Kyahstar!
The Lounge / Re: Members birthdays
« Last post by Amanda_George on November 30, 2023, 11:15:13 AM »
Kyahstar is our last birthday bunny of November, so please join me in wishing them the best day possible today!
Christian / Re: Devotions
« Last post by Pip on November 28, 2023, 04:48:33 PM »

How God Shows Us the Path We Can’t See
February 24, 2023
by Abby McDonald

“He split rocks in the wilderness and gave them water as abundant as the seas; he brought streams out of a rocky crag and made water flow down like rivers.” Psalm 78:15-16 (NIV)

I was lost again, driving in circles in our new town for the hundredth time. My phone’s GPS was just as confused as I was. When I consulted it for directions, my location didn’t even appear on the map.  After trying to reroute, I called my husband to ask for help. He had worked in the area for several months before we purchased a home there and was familiar with parts of town I hadn’t explored.  Later that week, he encouraged me to learn several routes to get to the same place. That way, I would know multiple ways to get home, even when I was detoured or my GPS failed. But for years, I didn’t follow his advice. I knew one route to my destination, and if I couldn't take that route, I was completely disoriented.  Sometimes this same type of thinking overtakes my spiritual life. I have a specific need or request in mind, and I map out the steps to fulfill the need. But because life and God do not adhere to my well-laid-out plans, I often encounter a detour.  My obsession with getting from point A to point B keeps me from seeing there are multiple ways God can provide what I need. We serve a God who creates roads unknown to any GPS, but my limited vision keeps my eyes locked on my way.  In Psalm 78, Asaph recounts countless miracles God performed after delivering Israel from Egypt. He used the most unlikely circumstances to show His power and created a way in one impossible situation after another:  “He split the rocks in the wilderness and gave them water as abundant as the seas; he brought streams out of a rocky crag and made water flow down like rivers” (Psalm 78:15-16).

But even though the Israelites repeatedly witnessed God’s miraculous power, they wandered in the desert for 40 years. Like me, they roamed in circles. And when they finally got to the promised land, they sent spies to scout it and were fearful of entering because of the army they would face. (Numbers 13-14) Instead of remembering their God who makes a way, they only saw the opposition.

How do we remember we serve a God of limitless possibilities?

When we only see one solution to our problem, how do we shift our focus toward the God of infinite vision?

Honest confession. When we tell Him how we’re feeling and what our hang-ups are, He often answers in ways we can’t comprehend.  Following the outline of many of the psalms, my prayers go something like this:

    An honest admission to God about what I’m feeling.
    A call for God to open my eyes to the truth.
    A recognition of God’s unfailing love.
    A decision to praise God despite the roadblock I’m facing.

Here’s the miracle: When I practice this in my daily life, God opens my eyes and shows me the path I can’t see on my own. My admission of my lack shows me new possibilities in Him.  God won’t leave us stuck when we come to Him with an honest plea for guidance. He longs to be our Guide. And when we come to Him, He just might show us a path we’ve never seen before, overflowing with hope and opportunity.
The Lounge / Re: Members birthdays
« Last post by Pip on November 22, 2023, 09:55:13 AM »
 :signs0072: heatherm2211
The Lounge / Re: Members birthdays
« Last post by Amanda_George on November 22, 2023, 06:11:06 AM »
It's your turn today, heatherm2211!   :yay:

Mental Health Care for Women of Color: Risk Factors, Barriers, and Clinical Recommendations
July 5, 2023
Tuana Kant, MSc
Maryam Sorkhou, PhD (Cand)

Women of color (WoC) are at an increased risk for experiencing mental health problems with long-lasting and detrimental effects. Gender, race, and culture-specific experiences and expectations may contribute to disparities in mental health. Despite their higher risk for mental health problems, WoC seek adequate mental health care less than half as often as white women (5% to 10% versus 21.5%). There are several potential reasons that may explain why WoC tend to underutilize mental health services, including lack of awareness, stigma, self and societal criticism, barriers to access, and lack of culturally sensitive care. To improve mental health care services for WoC, stigma around mental health in racialized communities should be challenged, and awareness and accessibility to appropriate services should be improved. To facilitate this, it is essential that clinicians take an active approach in creating a culturally safe space to provide mental health care to WoC.


In the United States, 18% of adults live with at least one mental health disorder.1 While the prevalence of mental health disorders often does not significantly differ across racial groups, the enduring nature and adverse consequences of these disorders disproportionately burden racial minorities, especially WoC.2 Simultaneously, white women are almost twice as likely (21.5%) as Asian (5.3%), Black (10.3%), and Hispanic (9.2%) women to seek mental health care services.3 This stark disparity in utilization rates highlights that women from racial minority groups face significant barriers in accessing mental health care. This article examines the potential risk factors contributing to the burden of mental health problems faced by WoC, explores possible explanations for their underutilization of mental health services, and offers recommendations for clinicians to address the limitations within the mental health care system, with the goal of enhancing the provision of care for WoC.

Risk Factors and Stressors for Mental Health Challenges: Gender, Race and Culture-Specific Experiences

Typically, women experience increased rates of mental health problems compared to men regardless of their country of origin, ranging from depression to eating disorders.4 This may be explained by the greater rates of intimate partner violence and childhood sexual abuse as well as societal norms regarding gender roles.4,5 Women are expected to be competitive and assertive, but also nurturing, vulnerable, and emotional, which may pose a unique stressor as they attempt to balance these conflicting gender roles.6

In comparison to white women, WoC may experience additional race and culture-related stressors that contribute to poorer mental health.7 WoC commonly report increased responsibilities related to family and childcare compared to white women.8 Moreover, professional WoC often face additional challenges, such as navigating financial and educational barriers while fulfilling family and community duties, which can lead to role strain.9,10 Although securing employment may alleviate some of the financial and social struggles that women undergo, migrant WoC often encounter difficulties securing work in their respective fields, leading them to accept lower-skilled and lower-paying jobs, a phenomenon known as “de-skilling.”11

Barriers to Mental Health Care

There are considerable barriers to mental health care in many ethnic communities. Main themes found to contribute to these barriers include: lack of awareness about mental illness; stigma and negative emotional responses towards self, family experiences; service barriers such as access and quality of care; and lack of culturally sensitive care.11

Lack of Awareness

The lack of specific terms for mental health disorders in certain languages, such as Cambodian and Haitian, can contribute to a broader lack of awareness and discussion surrounding these issues within those communities.12 When a language does not have specific words or phrases to describe mental health-related symptoms, it becomes challenging for individuals within those linguistic communities to articulate their experiences. Research has demonstrated that limited knowledge about mental health symptoms can also narrow awareness among immigrant women in Canada.13 Thus, WoC who lack awareness of mental health symptoms may not recognize that their experiences are potentially related to a mental health condition.

Stigma, Self-Criticism, & Family Experiences

Minority communities often view mental health problems as personal flaws, which can be understood by stigma and self-criticism. When individuals perceive mental health issues as character defects or moral failings, they engage in self-criticism, blaming, and may sweep such issues “under the rug.”14 A recent review identified that self- and public-stigma are greater in minority compared with white communities.15 Consequently, many WoC avoid seeking help for their mental health concerns out of concern for being viewed as nonresilient.16

Societal organization may also be relevant in consideration of the family structure and a woman’s role within it. While it is common for Westernized cultures to be more individualistic, non-Westernized cultures tend to be more collectivistic (ie, greater emphasis placed on group needs).17 Accordingly, a mental health problem may not only lead to feelings of shame in the affected individual, but also among family members.18 Hence, the stigma around mental health and towards individuals affected by mental illness may be a significant barrier for WoC to share their experiences with their family members and health care providers.

Service, Geographical, Institutional, & Financial Barriers

When WoC seek professional help, they face additional barriers that restrict access to mental health services. Such services are often located in white neighborhoods, and in migrant WoC populations there tends to be limited knowledge on how to access such supports.13,14

Lack of education and outreach initiatives are additional barriers that prevent WoC from seeking help. Racialized neighborhoods are often unable to provide the education and support needed to detect mental health challenges or provide resources.19 Notably, it was found that non-white pregnant women, including African American, Hispanic, and non-Hispanic women, were significantly less likely to receive mental health or substance use treatment compared to white women, regardless of income and health insurance status.20

Finally, financial barriers may prevent WoC from seeking help. WoC often do not have adequate insurance coverage, which makes it difficult to obtain the necessary evidence-based care that they need. Additionally, the need for childcare while attending therapy sessions can further contribute to this financial burden.13

Lack of Culturally Sensitive Care

Culturally sensitive care can be described as the ability of health care providers to effectively deliver care that respects and meets the social, cultural, and linguistic needs of patients.13 This may include the use and application of cultural knowledge, and understanding how culture interacts with mental health experiences. Unfortunately, there is a lack of culturally competent care for WoC.

The diversity amongst WoC warrants the need for linguistic compatibility and cultural sensitivity. Since English is not the first language of all WoC, it can be challenging to find appropriate services and to communicate with care providers, often leading to frustration and giving up on seeking care.13

Beyond language barriers, a culture-specific lens is also required by the care provider to fully understand the struggles faced by WoC. Certain aspects of patients’ cultural backgrounds, values, perspectives on health and disease, and preferences related to doctor-patient relationships can impact treatment efficacy.21,22 Providers may be unable to detect and recognize symptoms or address the reasons behind them due to their own biases, ultimately leading to system mistrust.23 Moreover, practitioners often lack diagnostic tools and guidelines that are sensitive to the experiences of non-Western populations.24,25 Even after proper detection of pathology, existing evidence-based interventions are primarily based on Caucasian participants.16

Furthermore, it is important to address the existing mistrust for mental health care providers by minority communities.8,26 WoC, notably Black women, are less likely to accept therapy or recommendations from their health care providers compared with white women. An interview with a Black mother stated, “I need someone who understands, who’s walked in my shoes, not just as a Black woman, a single Black woman with a child, but a woman who’s had a child by herself.”8 This need is difficult to meet given the lack of diversity among today’s landscape of health care providers (Figure).27 Thus, barriers in the communication between the care providers and patients, coupled with the lack of diversity among care providers, may contribute to the difficulty in receiving proper diagnosis and treatment for WoC with mental illness.

Case Vignette

“Asha” migrated from Syria to the United States at age 10 with her family under refugee status. The transition required her to acclimatize to a novel culture, which involved learning a new language and unfamiliar societal norms.

When she first experienced academic challenges at age 16, Asha brushed it off as natural. In her family and her community, poor mental health was viewed as “shameful” and a “weakness.” Asha felt pressure from her family to succeed academically and to be “worthy” of the life that her parents struggled to create for her. The odd time that Asha brought up a mental health concern to her family, she was reminded to be grateful for living in the United States, where they were safe. Her parents taught her to never mention this to anyone outside of the family and to focus on her academics.

During freshman year, Asha found herself feeling very lonely and that her schoolwork was unbearable. Struggling with severe depression and anxiety, she attempted to find a mental health care provider. After months of waiting, she finally found a therapist. Unfortunately, soon after she began to share her concerns, she felt misunderstood by the therapist regarding her family and cultural experience, exacerbating her feelings of loneliness and isolation. Asha felt at a loss as even those designated to help her navigate her mental health challenges were unable to do so. Luckily, through the intervention of a school counselor with access to mental health resources, Asha connected to a clinic that provided care specialized in the experiences of refugee families. Here, she was able to safely communicate her experiences and receive the therapy that she needed.


1: Decrease of Stigma and Increased Awareness of Mental Health Resources

The initial step to improving mental health care services for WoC involves building strong partnerships between service providers and WoC to increase awareness of resources. Clinicians can take an active approach by educating their patients and respective communities on the symptoms of mental health conditions. This will improve self-recognition while simultaneously reducing the stigma of seeking treatment.

Mental health care providers need to emphasize the importance of holistic health and the importance of treating mental health challenges as seriously as their physical problems.16 Promoting therapy as a way to treat health issues may reduce the ambivalence associated with seeking treatment. This can include holding mental health awareness seminars in cultural centers, incorporating early intervention services to newly arrived migrants, and disseminating flyers and brochures in cultural community centers. Moreover, it is crucial for treatment providers to emphasize patient-clinician confidentiality given that fear of others discovering their treatment status is a significant barrier to treatment.16

Clinicians can also reduce the systemic barriers to awareness and access. Many WoC report that their lack of understanding of the health care system, including where and how to access mental health care is one of the biggest barriers to finding adequate postpartum depression treatment.13 Similarly, obtaining mental health care is a significant financial expense for most families. Although various financial options for mental health care as well as for childcare exist, many WoC are unaware of these opportunities. Hence, it is imperative that clinicians provide these resources to their communities. Collaborating with different local community centers from minority neighborhoods, using local multicultural media channels, and distributing information in the community, can collectively improve the outreach of these resources.13

Many immigrant WoC emphasize geographical barriers for accessing treatment.16 Providing virtual treatment options and creating clinic locations that are easily accessible by public transportation or embedded in immigrant neighborhoods can also significantly enhance treatment utilization.

2: Culturally Sensitive Care

Studies have consistently shown that a therapeutic alliance predicts successful treatment outcomes.27 Cultivating a culturally sensitive space by increasing one’s knowledge of other cultural norms is of utmost importance to optimizing therapeutic alliances.

One approach to facilitate a trusting patient-practitioner relationship is to match individuals based on congruence in language and culture. Many women seeking mental health care prefer a culturally diverse care team to address their unique cultural experiences.13 For example, WoC receiving perinatal care report a preference for working with providers who are people of color due to cultural familiarity and comfort.28 Therefore, inquiring about patient preferences regarding their health care providers (eg, language, culture) can significantly increase treatment retention. Supporting the next generation of women from minority groups to become mental health care practitioners can also facilitate representation in the system and increase trust in the health care system among minority populations.

While increasing the number of WoC providers may improve the outcomes of care, it does not address the quality of care from nonracialized providers. Thus, further education is necessary to promote culturally sensitive care. This should involve gaining an understanding of one’s personal biases and adopting compassionate approaches to cultural differences. Both WoC and white women seeking therapy have reported less shame and embarrassment when interacting with a culturally competent provider.29 Numerous workshops are available, including guidelines from The Association for Multicultural Counseling and Development and The National Culturally and Linguistically Appropriate Services.

Finally, the development of culturally sensitive diagnostic tools can significantly improve outcomes in patients. This may involve adapting cognitive-behavioral therapy manuals to better suit diverse cultures.30 Patients with African-Caribbean, Black-African/British, and South Asian Muslim backgrounds have benefited significantly from the culturally sensitive adaptations compared to patients that received standard Western treatment.30 Consequently, it is crucial for clinicians to take an active approach in understanding their patients’ individual needs, and to develop methodologies that are culturally sensitive to enhance treatment outcomes.

Concluding Thoughts

WoC are at increased risk for developing long-lasting and detrimental mental health symptoms. Gender, race, and culture-specific experiences, as well as the barriers they encounter when accessing mental health care exacerbate the disparities in mental health problems. While heightened mental health stigma may limit their access to services, the lack of provision of culturally sensitive care may further decrease the efficacy of treatments. Therefore, to improve mental healthcare services for WoC, the stigma around mental health in various ethnic communities should be challenged while the awareness of services should be enhanced. It is essential for clinicians to take an active approach in creating a culturally safe space to provide the care that has been unavailable for WoC.

Ms Kant is a medical student at the University of Toronto. Ms Sorkou is a PhD student at the Institute of Medical Sciences at the University of Toronto. Ms De La Cruz is a master’s student at the Institute of Medical Sciences at the University of Toronto. Ms Katz is a PhD student in Clinical and Counseling Psychology at the University of Toronto. Dr Sharif-Razi is a clinical psychologist in private practice in Toronto, Canada. Dr George is Professor of Psychiatry in the Temerty Faculty of Medicine at the University of Toronto, and a Clinician-Scientist at CAMH. He is also an editorial board member at Psychiatric Times, and co-principal editor of Neuropsychopharmacology (NPP), the Official Journal of the American College of Neuropsychopharmacology.


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Christian / Re: Devotions
« Last post by Pip on November 21, 2023, 02:40:13 PM »

Come … Bare Your Soul
February 15, 2023
by Rachel Marie Kang

“But the LORD God called to the man, 'Where are you?'” Genesis 3:9 (NIV)

I have a welcome mat by my home’s front door that reads: Bare your soles.  As in, bare your (feet) soles, but also bare that actual soul of yours. Smooth out that wrinkle on your forehead, calm your beating heart, and come to stillness, to presence.  The mat at my door is like a welcome sign that beckons visitors to walk and enter through, all barefoot and barely breathing, all desperate for a couch to catch their tired bodies.  I cannot help but think of how the same is true of a blank page, a blank canvas or an empty stage they are all invitations that bid:  Come.  Bare your soul.  On the blank canvas, page or stage, you are welcome to create. You are welcome to bare your heart, the very words buried within. You can create in confidence, all while withholding criticism, as you work through the wandering and the wondering of your soul.  Thinking back to the garden of Eden, to our beginning, it’s so vital to know that God’s call for humans to bravely bare their hearts was not meant to instill condemnation leading to hopelessness. Rather, it was to inspire confession leading to hope.  In Genesis 3:9-13, after they had sinned, God called to Adam and Eve, asking, “Where are you? … Who told you that you were naked? … What is this you have done?” (NIV).

With these questions, these invitations to tell truth, God presented His presence. God established Himself as an eternal audience of one, ever listening and leaning in to the laments of our living, loving and losing.  God is still that safe place indeed, He is the safest. And He welcomes our stories, our honest words and artful songs and poems and posts and paint-filled pieces.  Could it be that black ink on blank pages might help make sense of all that doesn’t make sense in the world?

Could it be that baking cakes and stretching limbs long toward lofty skies might help release peace into every unseen piece of our lives?

We write and sing and dance that we might experience the exhale of God again, the sigh and sound of His voice that reminds us of His plan to fill our lives with light. Yes, by way of art, we can stand bare before a God who does not badger or beat the truth out of us. He is a gentle, whispering God standing with, not against, His people through it all. He moves us to breathe a brave release to confess and gradually push back our darkest memories and moments.  God calls for you and also comes to you, telling you it is OK to bare all of who you are even the parts that need forgiveness and healing and through Him, you can become new in spite of it.
One Step At A Time / Re: fighting depression and getting back in shape
« Last post by Pip on November 17, 2023, 08:59:24 PM »
You never know who will view your youtube channel so keep it up  :happy0158:
One Step At A Time / Re: fighting depression and getting back in shape
« Last post by Amanda_George on November 17, 2023, 06:36:33 AM »
Those people complimenting your animations are soo right!  You've got an awesome talent there!

Your new animation is awesome!  Keep it up for as long as you enjoy doing it!
One Step At A Time / Re: fighting depression and getting back in shape
« Last post by jali on November 16, 2023, 04:55:13 PM »
Who are you animating for, Jali? 

Maybe take a look deep inside your heart and just make sure that you're doing it for the right reasons (ie for you instead of for the views)?

You sound like me in many ways when I first started doing my blog - I was searching for things to put in it for other people instead of myself and I got very low and even suicidal when I didn't get as many views as I wanted each day but I came to a realisation that I need to do it for me and if other people want to read my mad mutterings then that's a bonus, but my main reason is that I need to get things out of my head and somewhere that I can hold myself accountable.

What I'm saying and probably failing at, is that you need to look at this selfishly... do it because you enjoy it rather than for getting the views... they should be a bonus rather than the main reason.

Sorry if I've hurt you by saying that.

:arms: if you'll accept it from me now?


Sorry for the late reply, I create these animations for myself, yes it would be nice to get the views, because lets face who doesn't like lots of views right?, ultimately I do it because i've  always loved art, animation and all things creative, I studied animation at university and even worked for a big graphic design studio, but I was creating the art they wanted and not my own, that was the driving force behind doing these youtube animations, I know as long as I keep creating theses animations I will eventually get the recognition I would like, I've had a good few people on youtube tell me my animations are cool and my channel is underrated which is always nice,

anyway I just finished another animation hope you guys like it
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