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Re: Dark thoughts, warning might be triggering
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2011, 07:25:37 PM »
I understood your explanation there Zaf. Excelllent post.

You have done a lot, and seem to do the lions share, on any current task that you find yourself in. You believe in team work, partnership and responsibility. You are a grafter. But it seems that the others in your life, your husband included, are glad of your values and take of them. I wonder if they ever say thank you? Does anyone ever thank you Zaf?

You have given and given all your life, and you have seen others play their part but they haven't given equally. Have they not been pulling their weight? or have you not let them? You said earlier on that you don't think thinking and doing things for others gave you pleasure, but you went on to say that it seemed like th 'right thing to do'. Of course that is pleasure!? The feeling of doing the right thing is pleasurable. It is accomplishment and pride and gratifying. But if it is overloaded, and it hurts you and drains you, it becomes damaging and looses its goodness. You end up thinking 'why am I doing this again?'. You don't enjoy it, and no one thanks you for it, you feel like you're doing this to yourself! (I identify with this).

If you help an old lady cross the road, you feel a sense of goodness. It is pleasurable.
If all you ever did all day was help old ladies cross the road you would soon be applying to the council for amenities on the other side!!!

Congratulations for starting to emerge from your cocoon Zaf. This Butterfly has new needs and can not survive in the conditions of the caterpillar. How wonderful.  :)

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Re: Dark thoughts, warning might be triggering
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2011, 07:28:28 PM »
Well I never like to assume and just because soemone talks about a girlfriend doesn't mean they are a boy!!! LOL
Thats true these days but somehow only a bloke would share a beer with his cat ;)


Oops no idea how I got this in your post but now its here I'm not going to try to move it in case I mess everything up completely!
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Re: Dark thoughts, warning might be triggering
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2011, 07:39:20 PM »
What the heck happened there? How on earth could that happen? spooky...
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Re: Dark thoughts, warning might be triggering
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2011, 07:50:36 PM »
I understood your explanation there Zaf. Excelllent post.

You have done a lot, and seem to do the lions share, on any current task that you find yourself in. You believe in team work, partnership and responsibility. You are a grafter. But it seems that the others in your life, your husband included, are glad of your values and take of them. I wonder if they ever say thank you? Does anyone ever thank you Zaf?

You have given and given all your life, and you have seen others play their part but they haven't given equally. Have they not been pulling their weight? or have you not let them? You said earlier on that you don't think thinking and doing things for others gave you pleasure, but you went on to say that it seemed like th 'right thing to do'. Of course that is pleasure!? The feeling of doing the right thing is pleasurable. It is accomplishment and pride and gratifying. But if it is overloaded, and it hurts you and drains you, it becomes damaging and looses its goodness. You end up thinking 'why am I doing this again?'. You don't enjoy it, and no one thanks you for it, you feel like you're doing this to yourself! (I identify with this).

If you help an old lady cross the road, you feel a sense of goodness. It is pleasurable.
If all you ever did all day was help old ladies cross the road you would soon be applying to the council for amenities on the other side!!!

Congratulations for starting to emerge from your cocoon Zaf. This Butterfly has new needs and can not survive in the conditions of the caterpillar. How wonderful.  :)

I think its six of one and half a dozen of the other lol, the more I take on the more people, including my husband, let me and then expect me to, but on occasions I take on too much under the "the only way it will get done (or will get done properly) is to do it myself" or I could also add "the only way it will get done without me having to nag and stress us both out is to do it myself"' and thinking about it I rarely get thanks of any kind from anyone, although I've noticed since I got ill again this time my mum does sometimes thank me for getting her shopping etc.  What I'd really like is for my husband to get up early one day and feed the horses and dogs without me being ill or having to ask him because I'm exhausted, I dont think thats ever happened and it would be really lovely  :)

At the moment the butterfly emerging seems to be causing a certain amount of unrest and is unsettling people around me but I know for the sake of my own health I need to let it emerge, in fact I need to encourage it rather than just allow it.

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Re: Dark thoughts, warning might be triggering
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2011, 07:51:30 PM »
What the heck happened there? How on earth could that happen? spooky...

I'm not sure, we must have gremlins  :o
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Re: Dark thoughts, warning might be triggering
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2011, 08:04:20 PM »
Yes you must encourage it Zaf.

Can you tell your husband "I need you to do (this) off your own back without me asking.
Or, as most blokes just need telling  ::); I need you to do this on Tuesdays and Fridays, Thank you.

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Re: Dark thoughts, warning might be triggering
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2011, 08:15:45 PM »
I've tried it countless times over the years lol, I have at last (over the last 3-4 years) impressed upon him that while we are on holiday (self catering) I dont intend to cook for him  - as I'm vegan and he isnt I normally have to cook two meals every day so I'm making progress!
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Re: Dark thoughts, warning might be triggering
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2011, 10:12:21 PM »
I think its something I need to go through atm karen, I just feel very goilty its affecting my OH so much at times.

I'm pretty sure lol is a he :)

Hope your feeling better zaf, if you don't mind me saying feeling guilty about things only adds fuel to the negative thoughts. If I would tell myself one thing it would be not to feel guilty about things, I hope I am of some help.

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Re: Dark thoughts, warning might be triggering
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2011, 08:30:17 AM »
thanks, as the saying goes "every little helps" :)  its really difficult not to feel guilty sometimes but I'll work at it....
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