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vljb

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depression not really leaving
« on: November 04, 2011, 10:59:20 PM »
Hello,
I’m really hoping for some advice and I apologise in advance for the rambling nature of this post.
I was diagnosed with depression approx. 3 years ago. My symptoms upon seeing my GP for the first time were very severe and included suicidal thoughts, loss of appetite, extreme sadness, anxiety, tiredness and an inability to focus.                                                                    
At that time I’d reached something of a crisis point (and as such my symptoms were magnified), but I’d felt the lethargy, general sadness (though less severe) and ‘fuzzy-headedness’ for a long time prior to that. I suspect (as do family members) that I’d been depressed for several years before reaching this crisis point and seeking help.
Over a period of several months my GP prescribed various antidepressants until we found one which worked for me - 60mg Duloxetine which I stayed on for 2 years. Whilst this medication helped enormously with the suicidal thoughts, appetite and anxiety, it didn’t help my inability to focus and constant need to nap.                                                                                                        
At first I was so pleased it was helping me feel better (in some ways) that I tolerated the aspects it didn’t help with. It was a huge relief to not feel suicidal anymore and to be able to eat. However as my anxiety lessened in severity and the meds allowed me to feel calm enough to make changes in my life (which were probably contributing to the anxiety in the first place) I’ve felt able to do more and this has brought with it its own problems.
I’m now a mature student, am working again and am managing to spend time with friends and my horse - all huge improvements (as being around people was a big stress for me). But as my activities have increased, so has my need to concentrate on and motivate myself for the tasks at hand. This is becoming very problematic and I’m growing tired of feeling so weepy all the time (which has never completely gone away).

After another visit to my GP we adjusted my medication again to Setraline (which made the tiredness worse), then to Mirtazepine (which is even worse than the Setraline), however the problem is that a) this sleepiness and fuzziness seems to be a common side effect of antidepressants, and that b) these symptoms were very much part of my depression prior to being on medication. The anxiety, which is now not present, was always interspersed with fatigue, melancholy and feelings of sluggishness.
On a ridiculously regular basis I find myself unable to focus. So far today I have burnt two separate lots of boiled eggs (they both boiled until I smelt burning), fallen asleep on the train (despite having a good night’s sleep) and walked to the local shop without a coat (I kept thinking ‘need to put a coat on, need to put a coat on’ – but didn’t realise I wasn’t wearing one until I arrived there). I have been so concerned about this sort of behaviour that I’ve been googling Alzheimers’s disease, brain tumours (my Grandad had one and was forgetful), narcolepsy and ADHD (a family member has it). Whilst I’m sure I don’t have any of these afflictions, I’m that concerned by my behaviour.                                       
I am deeply unmotivated to do anything – including things I love like horse riding and am VERY tearful about seemingly nothing (my lecturer gave me perfectly nice constructive criticism this morning and I promptly burst into tears!).
What I would like to know is, firstly if there is anyone out there with a similar predicament who found a medication/ supplement/ strategy which worked for them? Or is this basically my choice – feeling suicidal and anxious versus feeling non-suicidal but despondent, sad and fuzzy?

Just a side note: This post has taken me several days to write - in Microsoft Word in sections, then copied and pasted. This is the only strategy I’ve found helpful (to break things down into pieces) but as the above examples demonstrate it is not ideal and not applicable to most situations :-(. I’m in serious danger of dropping out of university because I’m too tired and unmotivated to keep up with the workload (though it’s a subject I’m passionate about) and I’m so tired and foggy-thinking I can barely do a full day of work or study. Even playing polo for 1 chukka (7 minutes long) is a struggle both concentration and energy wise. I am so very angry with myself and really want to give myself a kick up the backside, but I can’t seem to get a grip of myself.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2011, 11:09:23 PM by vljb »

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Re: depression not really leaving
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 07:27:00 AM »
The symptoms do certainly sound those of depression, and I know exactly what you mean about feeling tired and fuzzy, I have been lucky that my illness responds fairly well to Citralopram with no obvious side effects.

I can only suggest keep going back to your GP with your symptoms and worries to see if another combination of medication will be more effective for you.  Hopefully one of the others here might know more and be able to give you better advice xx
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 11:40:22 AM »
Hello Vljb, you have been going through a very difficult time. That post was very informative and made perfect sense well done. Your symptoms sound very distressing and I wonder if you have stressed to your doctor the distress you are feeling over your forgetfullness/loss of focus as perhaps this hasn't been your 'main' symptom before hand but now that other more immediately worrying symptoms are under control this seems to be your main concern?

I do hope you get some relief soon. One thing you must absolutely NOT do however, is blame yourself! DON'T give yourself a kick up the backside! because you can't 'get a grip' of yourself that's the whole point!!!! If we could 'get a grip' there would be no need for us to be feeling how we feel!!

Please keep posting if it helps. I'm sorry I don't have any advice on possible alleviation of your symptoms, I can only offer you my support and a virtual ear.

Take Care. Lol

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Re: depression not really leaving
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 04:22:32 PM »
Hi mate, that post could easily have been written about myself. I have found also, that mirtazipine has helped remove the anxiety, but I often feel tired and fall asleep, I have become unable to distiguish between what is cuased by depression or the meds. I find it very difficult to concentrate on my studies as well and its a real problem for me, I hope you find the focus to carry on.

Its very easy to be angry at yourself, but it isn't yor fault at all that you have lost motivation or concentration. I think being kind to yourself is part of overcoming this illness.

Take care
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2011, 12:16:06 AM »
Thank you for the very lovely responses. It's very comforting to know there are other people out there feeling the same way and thank you so much for responding.
You all raise some very good points. Hopefully my GP can sort my meds out. He's been really great so far and had a very sympathetic attitude so am hoping we can find something out there which does the trick.

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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2011, 04:19:49 AM »
Its great you have a sympathetic doctor, it makes a huge difference I find, hopefully he'll be able to find a combination of drugs that make an improvement very soon xx
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2011, 07:25:47 PM »
Over and over again I have been told that exercising would go a long way to boosting my morale. Problem is I HATE exercising. But...I'm going to give it a whirl! Medication won't completely solve the problem for me so there is some work for me to do while I take the meds I'm on. Pushing myself to keep busy is another piece of advice I've been getting.

How does the winter months affect you? Shorter days are a real killer for me!

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2011, 07:42:19 PM »
I find it difficult to believe that doing something you hate will help you, I find a gentle stroll in the countryside lifts my mood but if I forced myself to do any more I would get stressed out feeling I had to.

You need to rest as well as be busy, your body needs rest to recover in conjunction with meds, have you been offered any counselling?

Whayever advice you get, either in here or from the medical profession its important imo to feel reasonably comfortable with what you need to do to recover but just pushing yourself a tiny bit further each time

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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2011, 07:46:22 PM »
Over and over again I have been told that exercising would go a long way to boosting my morale. Problem is I HATE exercising. But...I'm going to give it a whirl! Medication won't completely solve the problem for me so there is some work for me to do while I take the meds I'm on. Pushing myself to keep busy is another piece of advice I've been getting.

How does the winter months affect you? Shorter days are a real killer for me!


Are you talking from a kind of body dismorphic perspective? I agree, medication is unlikely to solve this. That will either take gym work, or powerful philosphical reasoning...or both. But, medication could give you a supportive platform to work from.

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Re: depression not really leaving
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2011, 08:35:51 PM »
I love horseriding too. :-)

Whilst I don't have the energy to get the most out of my horse because of my depression, he is a hugely talented youngster and I know that once I'm better, I can progress us both and enjoy the feeling of success again. 

I wish you were closer, you could come visit him.  He would make you smile...

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2011, 08:39:32 PM »
Its often my horses and dogs that keep me going when things are really bad Flea
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