List of thoughts Rational v irrational

[lightenup]

When I am feeling well I have rational thoughts:

I can do whatever comes my way
I am loved for being me
I am able to love
I love life to the full
I can smile laugh joke
I can remember my losses in life with fondness
I can help others
I am a good listener
I am pretty inside and out
People can rely on me
I am a good parent/child

When I am feeling unwell I have irrational thoughts:

I am a failure
No one loves me
I hate life
I hate me
I am miserable unhappy
I have nightmares
I can do nothing
I am hopeless
I want to hide away (sometimes forever)
People make me panic
I hate do gooders, nosey
I am ugly and overweight
I wish people would stop dumping on me

Just thought that maybe if I started of a list like this it would help us individually to see just how a fine line our minds work.  It is hard getting it tuned around to the rational side.  Lets all write down our negative and positive thoughts, its .  The one I have for all our members are that they are caring 

[Woman]

I like this idea.  :)

I tent to live a lot on my irrational side these day and some times they can be extreme.
It’s funny though, I can help others and I can be exceptionally rational and focused when it comes to their problems.
The only thing is, it doesn’t work for me.

My rational thoughts….

I am a good person.
I can help people.
I am loved by someone.
I can sort this out.
(A few is better than nothing)

My irrational thoughts….I have tons of them, so ill just put down the more profound ones.

Why bother I’ll be dead one day.
People think my opinions are worthless.
There will be a  nasty price for the nice things in my life. (Tends to be most used)
I deserve everything I get.
I will be alone for eternity.
I will get ill if I touch people.
I should be ashamed of everything I have done in my life.
My time is running out.

I don’t mean to be too “bold”  these tend to be the thoughts I leave in my head constantly and tell no one about. 
I could carry on this list forever! I can find every flaw, every bad thing and put them in a list.
My rational side well … a few is better than nothing. Oooooo, I’ll add that to rational.

 I feel a bit weird posting this. 

[lightenup]

Exactly the point I am trying to make if we can turn our thoughts around.........I am not in a bad place today so I can think of better one's but on  a real downer it would be all negative.  But if we can put something good down its a good start in beating the hell out of this bugger, and as I say we can help each other here as we understand  "£$ I think what this demon is about.

BTW shame is one of my biggest demons..............when I should be saying I don't give a s**t what people think and everyone gets sick sometimes.  We need to love ourselves good post women :)

[Woman]

I was feeling rather brave that day.   
Writing them for others to see and be understood is really quite liberating. %^&
I just wish it was the same everywhere.
I try not to tell people I suffer from depression, and as for the shame (along with other bits)… It has kept me inside my house for the past few years. I know I shouldn’t bother with what people think but it seems to be one of those things, too hard to shake off.

I have another 2 good/rational thoughts to add to my list today.

There are people who understand.
And
I am a fantastic cook.  :)

[bel]

hi lightenup and woman

What a good idea for a thread. Mind if I join you?

I've been struggling a bit recently so I haven't posted  "£$ Feeling better today though  :)

Rational:
I can cope
I am strong
My opinions are valid

Irrational:
I have nothing worthwhile to say
I can't deal with this
My life is a waste

And I can relate to all of yours, except I'm only a reasonably good cook! 

bel

[Maru]

Hi lightenup, woman and bel, I like this thread, it helps me to see that other people have the same kind of thoughts as me sometimes.

I'll join in, though I'm kind of scared to make this post cause I have a feeling that the irrational bit is gonna be alot longer than the rational one, but here goes.

Rational;
Things wil get better
People do care about me
I look good today
I have control over my life

Irrational;
Nothing will ever change
I haven't looked good in years
I am alone, and I hate it
I am alone, and I like it
I can, and will f*ck up the simplest of tasks
I am a failure
I don't deserve to live


Also, I am a terrible cook, that's a fact, my culinary skills range from beans on toast to omlettes  &^% though on a positive note, I'm ace at fixing broken things :)

[Woman]

Hello all  :)

My rational and irrational brain have a good clash every day.
I know in my head that some of these irrational thoughts are not wanted or needed, but I cant stop them.
Then the angry questions come:
Are there specific times when we are to be happy or sad?
Do I have to follow the norm and be oblivious to emotions?
Why can’t I just be depressed? 
What will I do if I’m not depressed?
What sort of life do people expect me to have?
What sort of life do I expect to have?

I have been thinking a lot of what I feel.
Is the main point of getting ”better”  just to be happy all the time?
“If your not happy then there is something wrong with you.” I have heard this said a few times. Anyway…sorry for the rambling.

Irrational thoughts: 

Nothing works for me.
Good things only happen to others.
People hate me (even my cat) and I hate everything.
I should just wait for the bad to come get me.
“Hide what you think girl, they will think your opinions are stupid.”
You are only allowed to feel happy.
Some people are just born with a sadness inside.

Rational thoughts:   

I can sort this out.
I’m an intelligent person.
I am allowed to feel happy…and sad and angry and all the other emotions that comes with being a human being.

Thanks for letting this woman let loose.