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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2013, 03:53:06 AM »
Hey everyone,

Sadly I've had a bad couple of days, I've been horribly depressed and frustrated. I find myself getting paranoid and delusional at times. Like feeling as if people are making fun of me when I know they're not really. I keep getting this feeling like I'm talentless and worthless and everyone's criticising and laughing at me for it. My parents really aren't helping as well intentioned as they are. They keep complaining that they hardly ever see me since I'm always off doing my own thing and don't talk to them much. The problem is, I'm 24, I need to be independent. I'm the last one of my siblings living at home and I feel guilted into spending time with them when I'd rather be doing my own thing and living my own life. It doesn't help that the most common phrases I hear from them are "what?" and "Say that again?", It's frustrating beyond belief. Nobody else seems to have trouble hearing me, yet I constantly have to repeat myself when I'm talking to them. They're not hard of hearing, I could forgive that, they just don't seem to listen, and when they, especially my dad, talk to me, they take half a century to get a sentence out and seem perpetually confused and oblivious. They're older than me, they're going on 60, and I appreciate they wont be as alert as a young person. I don't hold that against them, but it's sometimes frustrating when you're trying to hold a conversation and it feels like having a conversation with someone who is drunk off their ass (neither of them drink I should clarify).

I suppose a lot of my problem is I feel bad for my parents and so let them mother me too much so they won't feel lonely or like the nest is empty, I'm the last one here after all. It's like I have to hold down the fort, or sacrifice my independence because I'm too kind to be firm with them.

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2013, 04:30:44 PM »
hey kutuup your issues are almost a carbon copy of my own.I am 23 and still live at home with my.parents.On the other hand I am an only child but they always seem to.mother me,wanting to have conversations with me,make me tea and always say "we never see you".Way am feelig at the mo the world and everyone in it angers and depresses me so I just want to be left alone to do my own thing.They don't know about my depression cos they are from the old school where depression doesn't exist and you shouldn't have to take tablets all your life.  I don't think they get me so.I dint tell them about my depression cos they will suffocate me even more.I feel guilty i f I move out but then I think i'd rather just keep myself to myself so I can't win either way.I get theough cos am a goid bull&$%+ter,i pretty much live two lives my "home" life and my "not at home" life.I hife.my depression,my self harming,heavy drinking and eating problems and soon to occur counselling sessions.Are you receiving help for your problems,either medication or counselling etc?
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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2013, 04:33:04 PM »
apologies for all the typos but fat thumbs and touch screen phone keypads don't mix lol
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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2013, 08:57:24 PM »
Although I am the youngest of two children I was always very independent from an early age so it has been the opposite for me.  Even though my sister was married at 21 and the extrovert she's the one that has spent more time with my parents.  When I started working my parents hardly saw me and even weekends I was out quite a bit so it was a bit like ships passing in the might.

I don't think parents even realize they are even doing it but saying that when my mum died my dad became very independent (he's 84 now).  It has been the other way that my sister has become the clingy one with my dad not wanting him to have a love, well that's what it seems like  :bgrin:

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2013, 10:19:09 PM »
I am 48 and too old for this thread. I have no children to force to do things. I try to agree things with my nieces and stepsons.

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2013, 05:17:38 AM »
I recently had a dream where everything was perfect , yet it was far from it. If that makes any sense. Me and some friends (who only existed in this dream) were in New York (yet it was a New York so far removed from reality that it could have been anywhere). We were in some idealistic place I recognised as New York in this dream. We went on some crazy adventures exploring this place. This dream, above all others, made me realise this: This isn't how things were meant to be, not at all. That's what makes me depressed and frustrated. What is is so far removed from what I pictured for myself, my dream is just that, a dream. it's the "orgastic future" Gatsby spoke about in the book. It seems one of the hardest lessons I will have to learn is that what I pictured my future being is a dream.

Maybe it's time I woke up and accepted that life isn't about dreaming, it's about accepting what is, as desolate as it is. That's been my primary thought today. I wish it would go away.

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2013, 08:26:33 PM »
Sometimes dreams can be good.  I didn't have a great relationship with my mum yet the first 6 months after she died I had special dreams.  In them we were getting on well as if she hadn't died and we had been reconciled.

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #67 on: June 14, 2013, 02:58:28 AM »
So today I found out that the first girlfriend I ever had at like 16 is now pregnant and engaged to be married. It was a bad day. She's off on her new life and happy. I'm here, single for 7+ years, unemployed, pretty much a loser. I called her to congratulate her but I was too ashamed to tell her I had been single for nearly a decade and had no job. I think the whole thing just reminded me that at my age I should be making a start on some kind of life, but it's like life stopped dead years ago, and I've been stuck in a chasm of a rut ever since. Like I've just been existing, not living. I have nothing to show for the time I've lived. I think I know what Tori Amos meant by "feeling old by 21", except I'm a few years past that already.

But then there's that little part of my mind that I gained through therapy that wants to just yell out: "She's too f***ing young to be having a kid and getting married!!! You're not abnormal! You're f***ing SENSIBLE!!!"

No, I don't literally hear two voices in my head, but I can't seem to decide which idea to listen to. One tells me I'm a loser and I'm miles behind the life events I should be having by now, and the other tells me to not give two &$%+s what everyone else is doing and do my own thing and hopefully things will work out. The problem is, neither offers any kind of certainty, and I'm VERY prone to doubt.

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #68 on: June 14, 2013, 07:50:04 PM »
Hi kutup, unfortunatly there are very few things in life that are a certainty,
Being single is indeed a terrible thing, but im sure you will find someone who will want to be with you, and spend many happy years with you.

(dont worry so much about unemployed, even fit and healthy people cant get a job)
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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2013, 03:22:16 AM »
Hey all :)

So it's been a cathartic few days and I've been thinking about  the root of my problems. I think I know what it is. I think I hung out with the wrong people as a kid. One guy in particular. This guy pretty much ran my life and I was almost subservient to him. If everyone was going out to a party and he didn't want to go, I would stay with him and bitch about the people who went out. The thing I didn't realise at the time was that he wasn't raising me above the other people, he was utterly destroying my youth and my social life. He wasn't a friend, he was a leech. The thing is everyone else was too smart to fall for his crap, but I did, and it took everything from me. I think back and realise that nearly everything he said and did wasn't the kind of thing a friend would do and say. From "disowning" me as a friend for smoking to calling me out for hanging out with girls who were people he had "called dibs on". He still has the audacity to claim that he's sad because I don't hang out with him any more. Bull&$%+. He isn't sad, he's just sorry I learned some self respect. I don't owe him jack &$%+. He's the one who lies to people on a daily basis and tells them he has a masters degree when he doesn't even have a single GCSE. Why? Because I have a degree, and he can't bear the thought that I'm more educated than him. He's a pathetic, lying cunt and he's done more damage to me than I can express. His ex girlfriend who he liked to rub in my face agrees whole heartedly. He's a moron, he has no clue about anything other than how to control and guilt people and I don't owe him any more than I could spit.

There's a reason why I never wanted to introduce him to any of the exes I had as a kid and young adult. It's because he's such an insidious cunt that he would make fun of me in front of them and belittle me and try to make me look ignorant when he doesn't have a single qualification, why? Because he's a borderline special needs child who couldn't grow a clue with a bag of fertilizer, yet he lies like a fallen angel with dreams of world domination.

I used to feel sorry for him, but thinking back on how he treated me and how he obliterated my childhood, I don't feel an ounce of sorrow. He was a cancerous leech and he sucked every hint of confidence I had out of me. He made every effort to drive my exes away from me, presumably so they would fall from him, and he felt no remorse. All he wanted was for me to be less than him. The fact that I'm not kills him every day. The problem for him is that I wasn't born into money like him and he thought he never had to try with people to succeed, when he didn't succeed, he fed off me like a tumor and I let him for so long like an idiot. Sadly for him, I'm older now, and wiser, and I couldn't give a &$%+ how his life is, he ruined mine, and quite deliberately, because it made him happy. I'm not subservient to him any more, and I don't care one bit how he feels or what happens to him, he could die tomorrow and I wouldn't mourn him. He destroyed my life and my confidence for his own pleasure. I thought for most of my childhood that that was what a friend was. How wrong I was. Sadly for me I have to deal with the damage he caused emotionally.

What friend causes so much damage that a person has difficulty ever trusting another person ever again in their life? None. That person isn't a friend, they are a cancer, and they will feed from you until you die, because it makes their self indulgent fantasy come true. They are filth, no matter how well they lie, and the fact that they lie makes them feel better while for destroying your life. You don't need them, and I don't need him. Spit them the f*** out.


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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #70 on: June 18, 2013, 10:39:10 AM »
You have a lot of self awareness, and you have certainly grown. It's a shame that his way of trying to find happiness involved so many ways of attempting to control yours! It's a good thing that you don't waste your energy and  thoughts on him. I hope that YOUR strength continues to grow. Best wishes.  :bye:

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #71 on: June 19, 2013, 01:31:37 AM »
I should apologise for dropping the c word in there, I think I was a sailor in a past life :P

So in terms of dealing with the people who have treated me like a subordinate, and the people who still do, I've begun the process of removing them from my life and replacing them. I don't even really try to explain to them why they aren't needed in my life any more, I'd rather they figure that out for themselves, also, I don't feel I owe them an explanation. If they call, I ignore it, if they send me a message, I don't reply. They'll get the message eventually. Am I being a bit of a dick for doing it? Maybe, but in reality, I don't care about them any more.

I kinda feel like Kevin Spacey's character in this scene, except replace a cheating wife with friends who treated you like a sidekick and expect you to just get on with it:

American Beauty Burger Scene

God I love that movie :P

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #72 on: June 19, 2013, 07:42:16 PM »
I've done my fair share of cutting people out of my life.  Some because they weren't a positive influence in my life others because of disagreements and they wouldn't accept they were  partly to blame.

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #73 on: June 22, 2013, 03:58:41 AM »
Hey,

So I've begun the purge, I've begun removing the negative aspects of my past who keep hanging on because they can't live without treading on someone. Sadly what I'm left with is a past where, realistically and honestly, I existed for other people's amusement or convenience. I had a "best friend" who always compared me to the loser in movies we watched and always made me the butt of a joke. He wasn't a friend, he was a cancer. He keeps calling me nowadays and saying he misses me and wants to hang out. Sorry "buddy", I don't need you, I don't owe you a thing. You wanna tell me about how you're depressed and how awful your life is? Bull&$%+, get f***ed. You were happy enough feeding off me, you're just sad I got wise to it. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, and I'm just as bad as you. You took away everything I had, and made me a slave. I couldn't care less.

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #74 on: July 16, 2013, 01:13:06 AM »
reading this thread almost promted me to start a journal, but ill reply before I contemplate how to start one.

kutuup what you said about existing for other people I can completely relate to.
I was living in my own flat at 16 (parents split I moved to Ireland at 11 and back to uk at 15) and was working full time. I was the only one in my group who had complete independence. I was a follower and did what everyone els in the group did, my role in the group was joker, the one who had a "free house" all the time, the one who stopped fights within the group to break out...
what im getting at in a long ass way is I was taken advantage of and take for granted, I didn't realise at the time but these days if there is ANYONE who treats me in a way I don't agree with or that isn't justified, I cut them off! if anyone makes me feel bad I don't want to know them. they don't deserve to know me. ive lived by the phrase actions speak louder than words because its so true, especially when you have lied to or misled by so many people... I don't believe things until I see them now....
people seem to always say the right things but in reality they cant back things up.... for egsample you may have friends who say if you ever need anything just call them, and the day you do they don't help....
you may have many people who break promises... I cant stand people promising me things because all promises made to me have been broken.

I hope this mate from your past doesn't have much influence in your life anymore, you definitely could do without that in your life!
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