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BlueButterfly

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Looking for some help...
« on: May 19, 2012, 04:55:12 PM »
I have been in stealth mode for a while, reading your stories and feeling the love and support here.  I have decided to de-cloak, and say hello.

I have had depression a few times.  Medicated twice, self treated once, but now feel like I need some support to help me self-treat myself again.

It may be useful to hear the catalyst to why I am having problems at the moment.  If not then feel-free to fast-track to my question at the bottom.


Phew.  Well.  One evening, 3 years ago a family member (who was 13), came to me for help as she had had unprotected sex.  At the time I was about 6 months pregnant with our first child.  She looked very upset and very scared and asked me to help her.

She had seen her parents straight after it had happened, but had chosen not to tell them.  They had now gone out for the evening.

We went upstairs and sat down and my Niece cried a lot.  I told her that she would need to tell her parents, she said she couldn’t and wouldn’t.  She was staying with a friend and said that they were going to get emergency contraception in the morning.

Knowing that EC is more effective the sooner it’s taken, combined with the thought of her going with her friend and without a responsible adult led me to offer to take her myself.  On the way we talked about why she felt she couldn’t tell her parents and I suggested lots of ways to do it, and reassured her that it wouldn’t be as bad as she thought it would be.

We went together, my Niece did all the talking herself, collected the medication and we left.  I took my Niece back to her friend’s house and spent the rest of the evening texting her, persuading her to tell her Parents.  

The next morning I continued to text my Niece, telling her she needed to tell her parents, she continued to say she couldn’t.  I told her that if she didn’t then I would have to, that it was too big a secret.  Eventually my Niece texted to say she had told them.  I was hugely relieved.

Later that day I had a text from my Sister-in-Law to say that they were very unhappy with me.  She said her Husband was very angry.  She said they had dealt with the situation, that they wanted us to not discuss it with anyone and they wouldn’t be talking about it any more.

My SIL and her Husband were two of my closest friends, he was our best man at our wedding, and we thought a lot of each other, but from that day on I felt our friendship was damaged, and as time has gone I fear that this is beyond repair.

When my Daughter was born a few months later I had hoped that things might improve a little, but with my SIL’s Husband it has not and over the past 3 years I have begun to lose hope of the friendship being repaired.  I see them regularly at family gatherings, but even after 3 years I still feel the anger and hatred from him.
I feel the animosity face-to-face, where he will not initiate conversation with me, will cut me out of conversations he’s having and quickly end any conversations that I have initiated, and I also feel the bad feeling on places like Facebook, where he will comment on status updates and photos from my friends and family, but never mine; even photos of our Daughter (his Niece).

After this time I think the only way to ease the pain would be to cut him out of my life, but I can’t because he’s part of our family, and that would mean cutting my SIL and their children, my Niece and Nephews out of my life too, and the pain of losing them all is too much to bear.

After 3 years of apologising, trying to mend our friendship and failing miserably I am feeling hopeless.  I get very anxious before family gatherings and feel very very low.  Most worryingly I have started to fail in my role as a wife, friend, carer and Mummy.

A once attentive person I feel withdrawn, anxious, unhappy, angry, a failure, and can see no way out.  I have started taking St John’s Wort in an attempt to lift me, but so far it is not working at all.



My question is how long has it taken for people to start better on St John's Wort, and is it possible to get through depression with the problem causing it not being able to be solved?  Thanking you in advance.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 04:57:55 PM by BlueButterfly »

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Re: Looking for some help...
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 05:16:39 PM »
The whole situation must be very distressing for you, do you have any idea why he was so very angry?

Despite using herbal medicines myself for many complaints, and always prior to resorting to man-made drugs,  I've never found st john's wort useful for my depression once it gets beyons a certain point although lemon balm tea does help a little with the anxiety.

For myself prescription antidepressents and counselling combined with lots of rest help me but we are all different so it may not suit you.  I would however suggest that counselling may help you cope with the anger being directed to you even if your continued efforts to mend things dont bear fruit.

Z xx
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2012, 05:23:11 PM »
This is a hard situiation for you.  You were only trying to help and I for one would have done the same thing.

I have in the past tried St Johns Wort but it did not work for me and had to go to the dr for anti-depressants.  I agree with Zaf counselling could well help.

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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2012, 05:27:29 PM »
The whole situation must be very distressing for you, do you have any idea why he was so very angry?

He said that it wasn't my decision to make, even though I didn't make the decision.  That as soon as she came to me I should've called them.  In doing that I feel I would have abused her trust, but in not doing that I have instead destroyed another relationship.

My real feelings are that he feels upset that his Daughter felt like she couldn't come to him, but blood is thicker than water, and so he can't continue to direct his anger towards his Daughter, but he can continue to be angry with me.  Maybe everytime he sees me I remind him of that time.  Maybe it's because I know his daughter lost her virginity at 13.

I am speculating though.  I've spent a long time over that last 3 years doing that.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post though.  I have Rescue Remedy, have you found that to be useful?  I've only tried it with pre-op/pre-dental anxiety before.

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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 05:33:14 PM »
It seems unreasonable to carry this on for so long  but sometimes with people these things fester inside and actually get worse than better as time goes on :(

No, unfortunately I havent really found rescue remedy any use for depression apart from after a panic attack

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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 05:35:05 PM »
I can see why you think that way, just seems sad as you were such good friends before.

I have used rescue remedy in the past.  But my depression was not helped by it.  It needed medical help.

I think you just have to listen to your body and mind.

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Re: Looking for some help...
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2012, 04:08:56 AM »
Hello,

I have just read this. Assuming that all you have said is the full picture, I can't see what you have done wrong at all. I fail completely to see any wrong doing on your behalf whatsoever. The response of the sister in laws husband...he sounds like he been pretty upset, and he has used you as an object for his emotions rather than his own daughter. His 13 year old daughter had sex, its enough to send a man very angry, and you appear to have taken the brunt of it.

Secondly there is the way you have responded to his event....depression. You have identified the trigger. Now you are trying to use medication....St Johns Wort. Forget the idea that its herbal, it is a psychoactive compound with an antidepressant affect. It isn't  working, so why not try another? You are already going down the medication avenue so why not try something else that can be prescribed?

Have thought thought anything about talking therapies? I think perhaps these could be useful to you.

Love Steve X
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 06:45:22 PM »
Hi there

I completely agree with Stevie. You should realise that you did absolutely nothing wrong and have nothing to feel guilty about. In fact, Maybe your SIL and husband are the ones feeling guilty/ashamed that their relationship with their own daughter is of such a nature that she rather confided in you instead of them. Now they are taking their guilt/shame out on you and you are accepting it. Don't!!!!

Stop feeling guilty. You are totally innocent of any wrong doing. You helped a child who was very confused at that stage and nobody in their right mind would accuse you of any wrong doing. Anybody would have done exactly the same in this situation. Say to yourself, over and over: "I did nothing wrong and have nothing to feel guilty about" and believe it. Cut these people out of your life for they are draging you down and this is not neccessary. Take controll of your life. Maybe a few sessions with a NLP practitioner wil put you back on track.

JT

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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 03:21:23 PM »
Welcome to the forum, I'm glad you think it's a lovely place.

Something similar to this happened to me except it was the daughter of a friend of mine. She would come and pour her heart out to me about all her problems and I would try and give her advice and get her to tell her mum, but the stuff she started to tell me was so worrying and it got to the stage that I decided to tell her mum myself, even though it was breaking a confidence and breaking the trust a young girl had put in me because she felt she had no-one else to go to.

Sod's law, her mum found out from someone else on the same day I was going to tell her and was very very irate. Looking back, I think her mum was angry at herself that her daughter couldn't tell her what was going on in her life, so she directed her anger at me instead, just like Johann has said.

Please don't beat yourself up for what you did, I still think I did the right thing and I think you did too, it is not your fault that you are a lovely auntie that your niece can confide in. FWIW, my auntie knows all sorts about me that my mum and dad don't know, and I'm nearly 40

Kate x