does it ever get to the point where you dont want to ask for help anymore?

[mrmoody]

sometimes I just dont see the point anymore the point anymore in asking for help,not here or anywhere.whats the point?Its just going over and over the same old ground and it doesnt really help me get better. the only thing that would help me get better is having my kids back in my life and my ex being reasonable,having a job and decent place to love,my mum or dad back in my life. The things that matter i.e people. I cant make people love me eh,I cant make them be forgiving or caring or kind towards me.

[mrmoody]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sW3zoANMp4

[Buttercup]

I see the point of this place as somewhere to go for support rather than help, it's down to the NHS for that.  It's just nice to have a chat and talk freely about things that you might not share with others.

[Zaf]

Personally the only way I got help was to try to change my life and that was down to good counselling.   I'm still struggling with it but I know what makes me worse and what can help now so its up to me to try those things even though they are very difficult.

coming here helps because people here understand and are supportive and because I can help others when I feel well enough

Z xx

[Ezel]

I get like that at times and have been feeling like that recently.  It's tough going and hard to get out of the space.  When I do I get to the point that I can't take feeling like that so talk to friends.

[mrmoody]

I guess I was speaking more for myself than others here

[Zaf]

All those things are incredibly important to you Alex and imo rightly so, sometimes counselling etc can help as it shows you ways of looking at things differently or tackling problems in alternative ways.

You will always get support here

Z xx

[Micky]

I've tried counselling in the past and it didn't really help. I did think about a couple of things differently but nothing that really made any big changes. I totally understand what you're saying. I know what will make me happy again and no amount of naval gazing is going to change that. The medication is just putting off the pain we feel about the situation by making us care less. It doesn't change anything tangible.

[Zaf]

Counselling certainly wont change a lot of things in life but I found it very useful in helping me see things differently and in fact it did actually help me find a way of changing my life in a positive way even though Ive taken a very long while to realise that the changes were possible.

It wont make people like me if they dont and I'm sure it wouldnt help me get my kids back if I was in that situation but it did help me feel strong enough to tackle things that I was shying away from so perhaps in that way counselling could help.

We are all different and some things work for us and some things dont but personally medication in conjunction with counselling works best for me

Z x

[Buttercup]

I echo what Zaf has said.

Counselling and medication seem to be the best combination for a lot of people, sure it won't work for everyone.  I think the idea is that the medication ease some of the symptoms which then allows you to more readily have a positive attitude to counselling and help to change the thought processes. 

Ok neither counselling or meds would help solve specific situations but they can help by changing a persons outlook on life and this in turn may change the way that others perceive them.

In my case, I know that the main thing that will help me is the meds, counselling will help me look at things in a different ways.

Buttercup xxx

[Micky]

I apologize if I'm coming across quite negative, but frankly I'm sick of it all.

After 30 years as an adult, nothing has worked. I'm still stuck where I was when I was 18, except I've had sex. Lol

[Buttercup]

I don't think anything should worry about being negative, that's the great thing about this place anyone can have a rant.  After all everyone is entitled to their own views and beliefs.

Love Buttercup xxx

[Zaf]

Buttercup is right, this is a horrible illness and we all need to have a rant or a moan from time, I've suffered on and off since at least the early 90's and just now feeling acutely how much of my life has been taken by it

Medication, good counselling and rest seem the only things that help me but sometimes the slightest thing can send me spiralling downwards again

Z xx

[Beetzart]

I know how you feel, Alex.  I'm at the point of giving up, although I am seeing two CPNs later, sort of a last resort.  Everything has just got too much, my wife now is on fluoxetine, it's all such a mess. 

[Sweetpea]

All I can say is that this forum has been such a great help to me, along with meds and counselling.  But everyone of us are different and what works for one does not work for another.  Another thing that I have realised is that rest is very important, before when depression has hit I have fought it and tried to carry on, but now I know I have to rest and just listen to my body and mind.

S x x x x