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Re: Serotonin Theory of Depression
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2012, 06:40:06 PM »
I was wondering if why some peoples' depression doesnt respond to antidepressants because there is more than one cause of depression; for instance I believe thyroid deficiency can cause lethargy and depression so if there is an underlying illness causing the depression it should be treated either at the same time or before antidepressants are prescribed.
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Re: Serotonin Theory of Depression
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2012, 08:57:52 PM »
You are quite right about thyroid deficiency. There are other physical causes too - Addisons Disease,Late Stage Syphilis,Brain Tumors. Doctors tend not to test for these immediately because they are relatively rare compared to uncomplicated depression. There is little doubt that there are multiple causes of depression,on the social,interpersonal,psychological,and genetic levels.

As to why the drugs don't work for some that is complicated. Part of it is no doubt that they weren't deficient in the neurotransmitter being targeted and that the roots of their depression simply lay else where. Maybe they have been depressed for long enough for various physical changes in the brain to occur-the Amygdala tends to grow, the hippocampus tends to shrink. I've never understood what the current anti depressants could do about something like that. But above all you have to take into account the fact that the drugs simply aren't as powerful as the drug companies would have us believe.

Then there's expectation. A woman with five children who is depressed because she lives in overcrowded sub standard accommodation may well find her depression unaffected by Prozac. Anti-depressants don't compensate for society.Age comes into it. Older people tend to respond more poorly than younger ones. I could go on and on.

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Re: Serotonin Theory of Depression
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2012, 09:24:06 PM »
It certainly does sound complicated Steve, and I certainly would agree that expectation must have some bearing.  I am fairly certain what brings on my episodes of depression and with counselling realise that I need to alter a lot in my life and the way I look at things to keep down my stress levels but its obviously not the answer for everyone.
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Re: Serotonin Theory of Depression
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2012, 09:29:44 PM »
Apparently I need to find a totally stress free job, struggling to think of one !!!!

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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2012, 09:40:03 PM »
Good grief, is any job stress free?!
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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2012, 09:43:42 PM »
If there is one I'd like to know! But imagine how many people would apply for it  :D

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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2012, 08:57:52 AM »
I'd be fighting to be first in the queue!
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Re: Serotonin Theory of Depression
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2012, 09:51:09 AM »
Nicely written little article on the relationship between SSRI's and neurogenesis. Should the Serotonin Theory of Depression prove to be totally wrong an explanation for the apparent efficacy of SSRI's will be needed.Neurogenesis is one such possible explanation. The research discussed was done on mice, but so is a lot of basic research.


 http://neurospeculation.blogspot.com/2008/08/different-mechanisms-behind.html
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2012, 09:54:25 AM »
thanks Steve, the links you are posting are most interesting and informative
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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2012, 06:00:00 PM »
Thank you Steve, I enjoy reading your links  :)

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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2012, 08:23:08 PM »
Thanks Buttercup. I'm glad you found the links interesting. Studying depression is a fascinating thing. I've been studying it for years and still have loads to learn.
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2012, 08:59:52 PM »
And I'm just beginning

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Re: Serotonin Theory of Depression
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2012, 10:34:03 PM »
If you're in the middle of an episode of depression now I hope it proves to be your last and you lack the incentive to learn which my multiple episodes gave me.
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2012, 06:05:39 AM »
Thank you Steve.  I am in a middle of a severe depression and severe anxiety spell. I have sought help this time but know I've suffered in the past. My doctor has just referred me to a psychiatrist so I fear this will not be my last.
Have been doing a lot of reading of late.

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« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2012, 06:54:47 PM »
Just read the neurogenesis article and found it very interesting, need to read it through again my concentration for reading isn't terrific at the moment, which I am finding very frustrating!