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New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2013, 08:53:16 PM »
I can see how it would yeah, it sounds like they undermine your confidence a fair bit. It's difficult, but once you break free it will be so liberating x

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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2013, 10:21:10 PM »
I think a lot of the problem is they seem to think I'm still a kid lol I'm bloody 24! Like when they go away for the weekend and leave me home alone my mum always says she's worried about me and feels bad. It makes me think they think I'm incapable of looking after myself :( I think a lot of it is that I don't socialise a whole lot, and my brother and sister do. They don't seem to accept that I'm happy that way as I just haven't met many people who I get on with that well. I'm mostly just happy by myself and doing my own thing for now. When I meet some people I like I'll hang out with them. I think they worry about me because I'm not like my siblings, but that shouldn't be a reason for them to worry and try to encourage me to be someone I'm not. They even talk to me like I'm a kid sometimes, like they'll ask what I'm doing on a Friday night and I'll say "Not much, just relaxing and watching a movie or something." and they'll come back with something like "Why don't you go and see (someone), you like (someone), don't you?". Yes, I probably do like them, but I don't need to be reminded to go see them, if I want to go see them or they want to come see me, we'll arrange something.

I understand why they worry, but I've explained over and over why they don't need to and they never seem to respond to it in any real way, which causes friction.

I dread to think what it'll be like when I move out eventually. I can just picture them calling me all the time to check up on me :S

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« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2013, 10:24:34 PM »
Are you the youngest?

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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2013, 10:24:56 PM »
Sibling I mean x

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2013, 02:54:07 AM »
Nah I'm the middle child, my sister is younger and my brother is older.

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« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2013, 11:08:02 AM »
There goes my theory that they are keeping you the baby of the family!

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« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2013, 02:27:11 AM »
I think it's that I'm the only one still living at home. That and I'm the only one who takes after my mother and inherited her line's tendency towards depression and anxiety. It's worse with my mother, I wonder if she feels bad that I inherited it from her, but I think she doesn't realise that I'm not ALWAYS depressed or anxious, I go through horrible spells of depression, and anxiety is something I struggle with, but both come and go and I've gotten a lot better at dealing with them after treatment and settling on a medication that works for me. That and my confidence has grown a lot since I got really bad last year. I still have tough days, but I'm a lot better overall. I appreciate the fact that I'm lucky to have parents who care so much, but I just wish they'd have a bit more faith in my ability to cope. I'll always have a tendency to get depressed or anxious, but there's so much I want to do and I feel like they don't think I can handle it, which knocks my confidence.

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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2013, 04:12:12 PM »
Hi There, i think it could be that your parents are so concerned for you they are the way they are, they may well have plenty of faith in your ability to cope, they are just concerned for you.
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Re: New here, wanted to explain the problems I've been having.
« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2013, 04:41:49 PM »
This is the problem with parents at times.  They think they are protecting you but you still need your independence.

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« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2013, 03:31:28 AM »
Hi all, thanks for the responses, I think I really need to have a talk with my parents about this stuff. Sadly today I had a rough day, I felt depressed as soon as I woke up, it took me a while to get out of bed, but I got there. Luckily I didn't have any commitments today until the evening when I had to go record my weekly podcast I do with a friend. So I went to his house and while we were setting up we were chatting with his housemate who is a pretty, attractive girl who I guess I like a bit. I started listening to myself and thinking about what I was saying. I like to think of myself as a pretty intellectual guy, and I have a tendency to talk about intellectual stuff and I'm also a mine of useless knowledge. So I started listening to myself, and I just felt like actually I was boring them and coming across as pretentious. Then my insecurity got to me and I started feeling really self conscious. So my friend's housemate's male friend came to pick her up so they could go hang out for a while. That kinda reminded me that I have NO female friends, only male friends, I can barely even hold a conversation with a girl, so what chance do I have of ever making female friends or having a relationship? I've been single for over 5 years now after all.

I just sat there thinking what an unbelievable c**t I am, being all pretentious and boring. I felt horrible. I know it's illogical since I'm a very caring person, especially when it comes to girls, but in those kinds of situations, I just start thinking that I'm a bad, patronising person for being that caring and that I shouldn't be that way because being nice isn't what people want, but I can't bring myself to not be. When I get like that, I always feel like everyone's laughing at me and I'm embarrassing myself. It's like my default is to think everyone is mocking me. It's horrible. When I get like that I just retreat to hiding in my room alone and avoiding everyone. 

I hope tomorrow is better :(

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« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2013, 10:34:20 AM »
 :hug: If it's any consolation I store useless bits of information and had to curb how much I came out with  :bgrin: .  I think we tend to think worse of ourselves than we are because we are depressed.  Anyway I need to dash out as the weather is lovely and I've got to do shopping.

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« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2013, 03:29:27 AM »
Urgh, another bad day :( So it wasn't as bad as some days can get, I was mostly anxiety and depression free, I'm just getting more frustrated. This guy I was friends with as a kid turned up at my house while I was out and talked to my sister saying how he misses hanging out with me and stuff, which is fair enough, but he also says to her (asking her not to say anything to me) that in other news his band needs a lift to the airport but he doesn't want to ask me as we haven't hung out in a long time. Surprise surprise, he wants something from me, I swear this guy only ever pops up when he wants something. Me and him have a complicated past. We were pretty solid friends for years as kids, but I was always made to feel like I was kinda his "sidekick".

Before we ever became friends he actually bullied me along with another kid for quite a while. So while we were friends, he used to behave really NOT like a friend thinking back. He would get all arsey if our group of friends were going somewhere and he didn't want to go but I did, so he would talk me into staying with him and not going out. Then when we were like 15 I started smoking and he would keep insisting on sniffing my hands to see if I'd been smoking and get all angry if I had. I get that he didn't want me to smoke but he was treating me like he was my mum or something. It got to the point where I had to ASK him permission to smoke! A few years went by and our friendship deteriorated and we grew apart. A while after that his dad committed suicide, which must have been awful for him, but it seemed to tip him over the edge into just being plain odd. He became a vegan and got health obsessed. I tried to support him but he just kept inviting me round and having me take his dogs for walks at like 2am and asking me really weird questions while were out about how my life was going. I get that he was pretty damned depressed, but it was like he was FEEDING off me. Eventually he got a girlfriend and changed completely, sadly for the worse. He kept treating this girl like a pet and setting out "rules" for what she could and couldn't do and would tell her off like a child if she broke the rules. He would invite me over to see them and just make me and his girlfriend feel really awkward by offering to "share" her and pantsing her in front of me and stuff. He kept trying to get me and her to share a bed with him and stuff, it was creepy.

Eventually she dumped him and moved away, me and her are on good terms and she's told me a lot about the stuff he did and said about me while they were together which really makes me question what he thought of me. A while back, before he dated this girl, I actually brought a girlfriend I had at the time to his house and he spent the whole time trying to make me look stupid, he still does this now on the rare occasions I see him, even though I'm single, he still tries to make people think he's smarter than me all the time. Not to belittle uneducated people, but I finished uni with a degree 2 years ago, he flunked out before he even got any GCSEs. I know not all people are academics, and that's fine, but what makes me angry is he lies to people and tells them he has a masters degree. He doesn't even have a single GCSE.

The last time I saw him before he showed up today was before his girlfriend left him when he invited me to see his band play. He spent the whole night telling me and his girlfriend off for drinking and taking me with "keeping an eye" on his girlfriend to make sure she doesn't smoke or drink. Well he picked the wrong person to task with that I guess lol, me and her hung out, had some drinks and had a good time. She dumped him shortly after. She actually asked me that evening whether she should break up with him, and I actually had to say yes because I was so shocked at how he treated her. Maybe she was taking my advice when she dumped him, maybe she wasn't, she wouldn't tell me either way.

There was a time before that where me, him, his girlfriend, a guy he's friends with, and some other girls, all went out on a Saturday night. At like 10pm, the girls all wanted to go to a bar, but he and this other guy wanted to go get dinner. I'd already eaten so I went with the girls to the bar and said they could meet us after they were done eating. So it all seemed fine, but they never showed up to the bar, him and this guy had wandered around town talking all night, then when it came time for us all to go home, he had a go at me for "abandoning" him and the other guy. Like I had some obligation to do EXACTLY what they did.

So that's pretty much a complete history of me and this guy. Sorry for the essay.

So what frustrated me today? After he showed up, my parents suggested I make plans with him, because he must be lonely and maybe he's changed. The thing they don't seem to appreciate is that I stopped seeing him for a reason, and once again they're encouraging me to spend time with someone I have little desire to see. Me and his brother are pretty tight friends, but since they don't live together I never see this guy pretty much.

It's like my parents want me to hold on to a past I very much want to get away from. Then tonight my dad, as well intentioned as he was, said I should get up earlier because they don't see me before work. I understand they want to see me, that's fine, but they don't seem to want to accept that I'm nearly 25 and I need to have my own life and make my own decisions and be my own person. Like a few days ago I said I want to take a road trip across America with some savings and they started saying "I don't know, I wouldn't be happy with you doing that alone." and making me doubt myself. I understand they're concerned, but I'm a fully grown adult, shouldn't they support me doing what I want to do?

I think I really need to move out and be independent, but sadly I can't find a job that pays enough for me to do that right now, and I've been single for over 5 years so I can't really find a girl to partner up with and move out.

I think a lot of my problem is that I'm still living with my parents and they, despite being well intentioned, are treating me like a child. I appreciate that I can come to them for advice any time, but it needs to be when I ask for it, not me being stuck living with them and planning my life to please them.

I want to move on and start a new life for myself, not be stuck living in my parent's attic and have them checking up on me all the time, like coming in my room when I'm out and snooping around.

I need to start over and make a new circle of friends, but I'm stuck.

It's getting really frustrating.

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« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2013, 03:18:07 PM »
Hi Kutuup.

Im sorry to hear about the situation with your friend :( It does sound really difficult. I am In a slightly similar situation with a friend of mine, It just seems like she wants me there when she feels like it, but then because I'm quite shy and reserved and she is outgoing she will just leave me on my own and go off with other people. It makes me feel like she just wants me there just in case there is no one else to talk to.  As you say it Is very frustrating. And I don't think it is friendship at all, just one person using another.

I know what you mean about feeling stuck, I also feel like I need a new circle of friends. After I came back from uni most of my friends had moved away and now Im stuck with this girl who uses me and people I have nothing in common with. It really gets me down :(

Sometimes I feel like just packing up and moving away.

I hope you are OK and feel a bit better soon. My advice would be to distance yourself from this person. Although I know from experience that this is easier said than done.

Catharine xxxx

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« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2013, 02:15:37 AM »
Hi Catharine,

My name is James, I just always use the same username so I can remember it lol it was some band back in the 90s that no-one seems to have heard of lol the band was called Kut U Up, but when people see my username they always read it as "ketchup" haha Now I've typed that I'm suddenly thinking what a weird word ketchup is :P

Anyway, I did have a better day thanks, I got a message from my sister who lives in Brighton about how much the printer I gave her for her birthday is helping her at uni, it's not a massive thing, but it's something and it made me smile :D I also got a call from my job agency and apparently a local company is interested in hiring me so I can hopefully get off JSA soon and have some money to play with :) I also watched Life of Pi today and absolutely loved the message that is revealed at the end, I wont spoil it for anyone though, let's just say it really spoke to me, it may well become one of my favourite movies. The guy who plays Pi is superb, he's a newcomer but he's going to go a long way, I guarantee it. I think I liked it for the same reason I absolutely LOVED Big Fish, anyone whose seen both will get why, I'm sure. I still can't watch the ending to Big Fish without sobbing happy tears :P the line "And as we get close to the river, we see that everyone is already there, and I mean EVERYONE." and all the people he loved are all there waiting to see him off and are so happy to see him. Gets me every time :P That and the "you become what you always were, a very big fish, and that's how it happens." part XD

Anyway, enough about movies lol

So I've had a chat with my parents about why I don't spend time with this guy. As far as I'm concerned, he's a damaging person. I even messaged his ex and she agreed that I'm better off without him and she started talking about how I'm a lovely guy and how I deserve better. I guess it made be feel better to hear that from someone. I feel like I seem to attract toxic friends who are a drain on me. The problem is I don't get away fast enough because I feel bad for them initially, and by the time they start treating me badly I'm too involved to just walk away. I think I spend too much time trying to be what I think everyone else expects me to be and not enough time being what I really am. I'm a shy guy who gets nervous easily, but I'm also a kind, loving person who always wants to make other people happy. It's just a matter of training myself to only be concerned with making the people who deserve it happy, and to not make other people happy at the expense of my own happiness.

Also, I started watching my favourite TV series through again, Red Dwarf. I really took note of one of the things Rimmer says in the episode "Thanks for the Memory", where he says he would trade anything to have loved and to have been loved, which prompts Lister to give him the memory of Evon McGruder (sorry, I have an encyclopaedic knowledge of that show lol). Well, that got me thinking, I do have a memory of having loved and having been loved, it was a relationship from back when I was 15, me and this girl were inseparable for almost a year. It's over now and she's off and married, but I still have that memory, and that makes me happy :)



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« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2013, 08:43:03 PM »
Sounds like you have had a better day today  0158