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Hi All. Am I in the right place?
« on: July 27, 2011, 12:55:56 AM »
Hi All,

As the name says I'm Pete and I am from the midlands.

Its been a long time coming but I finally bit the bullet last night and joined the forum but to be honest I really dont know if I even belong here or am just being stupid.

I have suspected for many years ( around 25 to be honest) that I suffer from some kind of mental illness but there have been times when life is great and I am flying along on a cloud......usually before something makes it crash from the sky and smash into the ground with a massive thud.

Sorry if this seems to turn into me on the shrinks couch but I tend to go on a bit and I just know that what I have inside right now cant stay in there anymore, it  has to come out but I just cant bring myself to tell anyone "real" if you know what I mean, This is much easier.

This year I turned 40 and have even blamed it all on a mid life crisis but I know in reality that this has been going on for much longer than a few weeks or months.
 Sometimes I even hear myself thinking thinks before I say them (sometimes I dont even say them lol) and this makes me feel that I am inside making it all up and just lying to myself about everything. Like I dont really have depression or any illness and I am just making it up. Sorry if that sounds nuts but its how I can explain it.

Can I start off by saying that I am quite intelligent ( I think) and very active. I go gym 2 or 3 times a week, do karate twice a week, work full time as well as a part time job however of late and again ( it has happened before) things are really suffering.

I was the youngest of 5 kids however when I was aged 10 months my birth mother simply left us. My father was a drunk and womaniser and basically I cramped his style so was adopted out. I always knew I was adopted and always knew that my father remarried a few years after my adoption and had a neew son. I was the only one to be paced for adoption although a fair few years later my brother 2 yrs senior was taken into care also.

When Iwas 7 my adoptive parents who had me as they couldnt have kids miraculously had their own child and I immediatly recall those feelings of dispair and anguish of being alone. I recall talking in my head that they wouldnt want me now they had a newchild and soon I would be alone. I would say I must have done wrong and that I must be a bad person to have people wanting to replace me all the time. I was aged around 8 years old then but still remember it clearly and even as I type this I am sweating and my  heart is racing thinking about it and thatwas 32 years ago.

As a teenager I would often be told to calm down as I rushed everywhere and would speak and act hyper but there would also be times I would sit in my room aloneor even sleep for days. I never sought help and was never offered any. It was just assumed I was lazy and like sleep but often I just could see no reason to wake up. I never had thoughts of suicide or anything though. not that I recall anyway.

I searched for my real family for years sometimes not sleeping for days as I made plans of how to find them, what i would say ( even writing whole speeches like plays) but at times I would lose it and just give up saying why would anyone want me back anyway, they gave me up for a reason etc.

In the year 2000 I was contacted by someone saying my eldest brother was looking for me. I made contact and was reunited with my 3 brothers and sister. My  father turned his back again. He had made up with al of my other siblings just before his death in 2002 but with me  , never. That threw me way into lows as I thought i must have  done something really  bad but I was less than a year old so how???

I found out my brother suffers from manic depression and has been hospitalised before and it scared me as when he tried to tell me what he'd been through I said nothing but it was like he was telling me my own life. The lcak of sleep and the over sleep. the high times the lowtimes, the mood swings etc etc I said nothing about myself as I just felt that he would think I was lying to be like him.

as it turned out my brothers never really bothered after the first  few months and I again hit all time lows as I felt rejection again but the factmy sister basically insisted we kept in touch gave me lots of happiness however I would still sink into lows for no real reasons at times. Sometimes I would be ok for weeks and just have an off day as i put it where i wouldnt do anything just sit there.

I used to smoke cannibis as a release and so blamed the mood swings etc on smoking that but I stopped smoking completely back in 2005 but this is when things started to come back again. My friend wasa diagnosed with throat cancer and I saw him suffer terribly until he died in 2006. a month later my father passed away suddenly ( adoptive father). I was just getting to get close to him as we bith grew as my childhood I was a bad aple always in trouble but as an adult i took the other stance.

This year has been the worst since 2007 when my birth sister was diagnosed with breast cancer. She was taken into hospital in january after fighting for almost 3 years but passed away in feb aged 42. 2 weeks before her 43rd. My whole world fell apart and even though I have a wife and 4 great kids including a new baby girl born in 2010 I feel so very alone. How can anyone possibly understand how it feels to spend your whole life alone when your surrounded by family never mind how it is to finally feel you belong somewhere but within 10 years have it all taken away again? I am sure I am not the only one but it just feels like its my punishment for doing wrong.

This caused me to let my business collapse as i just could be bothered to work. I am self employed ( well was) but the phone would ring and I would just silence it and go and sit in the toilet alone. I couldnt deal with anything. I started drinking heavily but was  aware of it so stopped.

I put on the face for my wife and kids and for the people i know but inside I am falling apart. I have tried to say its just grief but its like I am telling myself its  more than just that. I'm like the patient and the doctor and that scares me as I dont want the stigma I know exists of being classed as mad or unhinged. I dont want my kids to see me as a failure who cant cope and I want people to see me as a success which has led me to try many silly get rich uick schemes only to fail. Mates even laugh and call me delboy but I cant help it. Iconvince myself I can "make this work" but I then just start thinking of other things and it fails or i lose interest.

I am now on Jobseekers as I lost all my business but i'm scared to see the doctor incase he says somethign that affects my ability to work and I lose my benefit as I really cant afford to not get money as there are masses of bills to pay. I need to be fit for work so much that I had a fall a few weeks ago and injured my shoulder and neck and although I getting physio for it I am still signing on as fit for work as i cant afford to not be. All this is addig to the pressure and I sometimes just sit and cry alone in the bathroom or in the car. I miss my sister so much that for the first time in my life I had a passing thought that maybe i shoudl be with her but only for a second and its never happened since as I love my wife and kids so much I couldnt ever leave them but it scared me.

Am I just greiving or is there more? Am I in the right place or am I simply messed up right now? I just dont know anymore.

sorry for the huge post but as you can see its almost 1am and i'm so tired but it had to come out.

My apologies if i offend anyone who is really ill and I am just being silly but I have taken so many stupid tests online that all say i have severe depression that I wanted people who really know their stuffto advise me what to do as who knows better that those who suffer themselves eh.

I'm scared the doctor will end up getting me locked up for being crazy lol....I laugh but im serious. !"! ( dunno why i used this emoticon but hey i like it lol )

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Re: Hi All. Am I in the right place?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2011, 12:57:15 AM »
WOW what a huge post.......i'm really sorry mods got a bit carried away there oops  ::)

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Re: Hi All. Am I in the right place?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2011, 01:42:28 AM »
Hey and welcome, first of all don't appoligise for the length of post, the more info the better.
You have an illness( like all of us here) your not crazy, I would highly recommend you go to you gp and seek help, don't worry about them locking you up or stopping you from working.  Personally I'm a specialised electrician and I'm still allowed to work.

Sorry for the brief reply I'm on my phone and the battery is dieing. I'll reply again tomorow
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2011, 05:35:33 AM »
hi pete. you don,t need to apologise. it sounds like you have been through such alot. you really should go and see your g.p as it is plain that you need help. it must be so hard to cope with the grief, rejection losing your business etc all alone. it takes a lot to get sectioned, you must be considered a danger to yourself  or others before that happens so try not to worry about that! the first step would be anti depressants to stabilize your mood. you owe it to yourself and your kids to get help. take care mate

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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2011, 07:48:43 AM »
Pete, with all the hurt and stress in your life I'm not surprised you feel so awful, do go to your GP and get started on some medication, he may also be able to organize some counselling, it really does help to be able to talk things over with someone.  You could also try the Samaritans or SANE who both have email facilites if you dont feel like actually talking to someone.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2011, 10:45:13 AM »
Hi Pete welcome to the forum, as the others said you must go and see about yourself, depression is nothing to be ashamed about.  You have come through a lot and need some help.  Getting things down hopefully has helped you in a way, and no one on here will judge you as we are all in the same boat.  Self employment is not easy, coupled with the death of loved ones.  I was self employed for 15 years. Then went into employment for 3 years working 12-14hour days then I was made redundant and my sister died from breast cancer all in the space of one month. To be honest I believe I was just burned out.  I still have dreams about getting work completed 2 years later  ::)  My GP recognised I had a problem and I am grateful he did, as I don't know what would have happened. 

Please ask for that help and let us know how you get on.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2011, 03:38:40 PM »
Hi All,

Thanks for the replies and the welcome.

Having read back through my post it doesn't seem like it was me typing it but of course it was lol. What I mean by that is I usually have a sort of insistance to use correct grammer and spelling but my first post is more of an incoherent ramble. Sorry. I will put it down to last night being so incredibly tired as I had had a bad few days and things were again reaching the point where I usually try and escape into another mindset. When I have previously suffered like this I have jumped inside a bottle of whiskey or got so involved and absorbed in something else such as building forums or websites and even just playing online games. The only problem there thought is that it usually ends up with me not sleeping for days as I "commit" to whatever I am doing.

The good news is that although I have had the flutters all day and feel a bit shakey I have made an appointment with my doctor for tomorrow morning. I am already seeing him for my neck injury as well as having physio for it but am now hopefully going to speak to him about this as well. My problem though is that I still feel embarresed and prone to play down things for fear of others thinking I am being over the top. I know I need to be honest with the doctor and tell him everything but i'm finding it really hard to think how I can start off. I know once I start if I feel he is taking any notice I will go off on one and it will all spill out but if I see he isnt really paying any or much attention I am likely to just clam up. I know this wont help and I am starting to get a bit jittery about wasting my chance to finally get some help as I know it could well take me a hell of a long time to admit things again. I also know if I dont go through with it all the way I will beat myself up about it later and i will end up down again.

A positive note is that this forum has seemingly opened up a sort of diary which answers back which is fantastic so many thanks to whoever set this up, you are a life saver in so many ways.  ;)

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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2011, 07:07:27 PM »
 $%$Would it help to rehearse what you want to say to the doctor?  It does sometimes help me.  Just tell him exactly how you feel and the symptoms, write a list if you think you'll clam up or forget something important.

I'm going to the doc tomorrow too and my first counselling appointment in the afternoon which I'm not looking forward to.

I'll be thinking of you, stay strong and do your best to tell the doc how ill you are....
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 07:08:47 PM »
Hi Pete maybe take a copy of your entry to the Dr's and let him read it.   ;)
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2011, 07:52:32 PM »
please dont be sorry about rambleing, it was you getting things of your chests. it was probably more informative for us when you just went for it like that.
please try and avoid alcohol its a depresent, when your feeling down it doesnt help, what sort of games do you play ?? try and get sleep when ever you can, i know its hard to do, i quite often burn my self out and it makes me worse.

well done for makeing the first step towards recovery, i have problems with playing things down and not telling them everything so i write things down, i keep notes that i make 24/7 on my phone and show them, normally just little bullit points. i agree about possibly showing them your opening post, but only do what you feel comfortable doing.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2011, 03:39:01 PM »
Hi Pete -

It really sounds like you have been through so much - too much for one person to carry on thier own! Its good that you are seeking help and I really wish you the best  :)

Feel free to 'rant' on here as much as you need - and don't ever feel like you have to apologise! Getting things 'out' is great therapy!!

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2011, 05:37:17 PM »
Hi Pete...welcome on board...Im new here too only joined yesterday but I really like it already...just being able to talk about whats going on with people that going through similar its worth so much.

But you must stop apologising for stuff (you ve done on a couple of posts i ve read  ;) )...we all on the same boat here some worse than others but still all dealing with mental issues.

I can relate to some of what you are feeling, specially the rejection bit. My mother was seeing some married man and fell pregnant with me and he didnt want to know so for not living with the shame of being a single mother she decided to take on the offer from this bloke to bring me up as his own child. Sounds all very nice if it wasnt for the fact that I became a burden and as they only had eyes for each other and I might as well been invisable. As a child I was often left on my own with no food and wasnt cared for properly. My mother never had any interest in what was going on with me and I was bullied at school. At the age of 8 we moved to live near my mothers parents and I used to get dumped at my nans a lot but I didnt mind because at least I would get fed and my nan was nice as she would play with me and teach me stuff...however that bit of normality didnt last long as my grandfather started to sexual abuse me and continue to do so until I was 11...but what hurt the most wasnt the physical pain ( i became quiet good as just lay there and try to block it till was over) it was the fact that one day my nan walked into the bedroom and saw what he was doing and looked away and later told me that I was to keep quiet about what was going on, not to ever tell anyone. All my hopes of ''being saved'' went out of the window pretty quick. The only person I thought cared about me was willing to be part of this and do nothing about it. My nan obviously spoke to my mother about it as later on that day I was reminded by my mother to keep quiet.
 
Anyway the story of my messed up life doesnt end here but I wont bore you with anymore...I just want you to know that you are not ''being silly''...things happen in life that can have a tremendous affect on you mind and you are not to blame in any way. Please go and seek professional help and try to talk to your wife about it...im sure she will understand and you will feel so much better by not having to hide it. You must not feel a failure but need to be strong to overcome this and you will. I know its easier said than done but take little steps...its been nearly 7 years to me and im still working on it but I feel a lot better than I did at the begining.

Ah looks like you got competition on whos got the longer post lol  :) [/color

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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 07:10:55 PM »
Hi Pete

Try not to worry ( easy to say I know ) - a lot of your symptoms I can understand, and you have been through SO much I feel for you. Please get help and let people here know how you get on. I didn't go to the docs for years, trying to sort it out myself, the medication he gave me did help but I still go up and down. Some people seem to be SO together I try and hide it but sometimes it is just too much and I stay inside, or go to sleep ! Thinking of you - you are not alone, it is v hard/unhelpful trying to keep up a pretence I think, but I don't want my grown up kids to know as I don't want to worry them. You have done really well with work and all the other things you manage to do. Speak soon. Hugs