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self-stigma
« on: April 30, 2016, 06:22:28 PM »
We hear so often that a substantial proportion of people suffer from depression or similar difficulties therefore we should all be free to tell people how we feel. The problems I find with that are twofold.

Firstly, if I do try to tell local people how I feel then I get, at best, puzzled incomprehension. Certainly nothing which makes me feel understood and supported. That includes people who say they have suffered depression or anxiety in the past. Yet they still seem to just not get it. There is also the danger that they will withdraw.

Secondly, I myself don't know whether my lack of motivation and my anxiety of doing things is the result of a disorder or simply that I'm being a wimp and making a meal of what everyone has to cope with in life. In reality, it is not possible to know how much physical pain someone is in. We can only go by what they say and have a rough idea of how similar situations would feel to us. With "invisible" diseases it is harder as the observer has no objective physical things to go on. They ONLY have what the sufferer says so how can they, or I, tell the difference?

I look around and see people doing things with apparent ease which I can only do by fighting the anxiety tooth and nail. Are they doing the same or is it really much harder for me to do these things than for them? My instinct says, "yes it is", but maybe I'm just weak.

A couple of weeks ago, I was feeling particularly bad and I tried to tell one of my closest local friends in the hope of getting some understanding. Without giving me the chance to say what I was feeling, they said that they were feeling worse. In reality that might be true but they couldn't know that. I feel that I just need someone who can understand how I feel so that I don't feel so isolated and don't think that it all has to be my fault. Maybe that is not possible, I don't know....

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Re: self-stigma
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2016, 10:15:42 PM »
I 'get' it.  If someone has an illness, cold, flu, condition such as asthma people can understand it as there is so much knowledge freely given.  People can understand broken bones and amputations because they can see it.  Depression still has a stigma so even when someone has suffered from it short term they can't understand how debilitating it can be.  Unless a person has suffered with long term depression they can't comprehend how difficult it can be to work through.

My husband and I are going through a bad time emotionally so suffering with depression makes us feel worse.  Yesterday and today I have found it extremely hard to carry on as normal.  I was helping out at a lunch club and today we had a fete at my church.  I was in the kitchen as usual to serve tea, coffee and hot dogs which keeps us busy.  Even though I have a good support network they don't know how to get my anxiety level  back to normal.                     

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Re: self-stigma
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2016, 08:39:04 AM »
 :hug: Fergus.  I'll listen and understand where you're coming from if you want to talk this afternoon?  Do you have an understanding GP you can talk to and arrange counselling or therapy or anything like that?  Are you on any meds or anything like that?

You're far from a wimp or weak, Fergus.  You're a lot braver than me for one!
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Re: self-stigma
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2016, 08:57:27 PM »
Amanda: In my experience GPs don't have the time to understand things like anxiety. Not their fault but the system effectively turns them into mechanics.  I've talked with psychotherapists a lot and it may well be time to do so again. We didn't get much chance to talk this afternoon because H was there but, even so, I'm not sure what there is that I can say. I do appreciate your caring :-) .

Pip: Sorry to hear you are going through a bad time. I hope circumstances get better for you. I certainly agree with what you say.

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2016, 09:13:59 AM »
Is there any way you can write to your GP and ask him/her for a referral?  There's an online counselling thing available but everyone is in America unfortunately!  If you're interested, just say the word and I'll send the URL to Pip to check out before I put it here for you   :hug: 

How would you feel about starting some meds to help with your anxiety?  The Citalopram and Olanzapine have been literally life-savers for me!   :D
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Re: self-stigma
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2016, 05:46:22 PM »
https://www.betterhelp.com/ is the URL and it's free for 7 days but then you have to pay.  If you can afford to pay then it's definitely worth it!

It's an American place though so there is a 7 or 8 hour delay unfortunately but if you want some qualified support then give it a try and take it from there?
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Re: self-stigma
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2016, 07:34:01 AM »
Thanks, Amanda. I might look for some local counselling to see if that helps. I've done that before but I'm not sure how effective that was. Might be time for another go though.

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2016, 07:59:16 AM »
I hope it helps if you go for it... you've got a lot to gain if you find the right counsellor!   :happy0158:  :hug:
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