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General => Medication => Topic started by: milkyjoe on September 29, 2016, 06:12:11 PM
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hi peeps, i need to post on here when im okay for a change. however i got excited last week because my sleep apnoa appointment had arrived. till they cancelled it for the third time. i been told its december now. my depression has come back with a vengeance this week and my sleep has vanished completely. i just end up watching tv all night in a zombie like trance. life sucks for me right now. my appointment with my health counseller is still 5 weeks away. the nhs is a real shambles right now on mental health issues....................:(
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I'm so sorry you've been delayed again, Joe! Can you maybe phone them in the morning and explain how frustrated it is making you now that they've delayed you three times? Maybe you could say that you're available at short notice or something?
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:hug: if you want it?
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yeah it is ridiculous. i got a potentially lethal condition that i cant get diagnosed................ :(
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my mood is so low right now. never been this low before.
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Maybe you could phone the place and tell them that you are risking your life every time you go to sleep? Is there anything your GP can do on your behalf or anything? :hug: again if you want it.
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Im gonna make an appointment Monday. I can't go on like this, I just don't enjoy life anymore. I'm actually contemplating getting myself sectioned so I can get some help.
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You shouldn't be forced to live like you are so please do make the appointment on Monday, Joe! In the mean time, I'll listen whenever you need to talk!
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Thank you. I'm glad you have messaged. No idea how I'm gonna get through next few days.
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Lean on us whenever you need to and I for one will always be here for you :happy0158:
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i been thinking all day on ways to end my life im that low. ate 30mg mirt 20mg of proponol and zopiclone and didnt sleep at all.
i think i have come to the end of the line. thinking along the line of necking vodka bottles. man the nhs failed me big time.
just couldnt get the help i needed
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Please keep safe, Joe! Phone NHS Direct and ask what they can do to help then make an urgent appointment with your GP tomorrow and demand to get the help you so desperately need and want. Ask about self-referrals or hospital appointments or a temporary increase in your meds or something. Print out this thread to take with you... I care about you Joe!
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hello. my mirtazapine has been increased to 45mg. im still suicidal. my family have me on lock down. managed to get 5 mins to post. still not sleeping,dont think i ever will. thanks for your support amanda. means alot. really need the mirt to get be back to normality. cant go on like this
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Keep taking the Mirtazapine, Joe and I hope the increase kicks in soon! I understand the suicidal thoughts and I understand that you're incredibly low right now, but keep on keeping on as best you can because you will feel better just like I did!
Please stay safe. I care.
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Thanks, any idea how long it will take the extra 15mg to start kicking in. Got some sleep yesterday, but had to take a zopiclone.
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I've got no idea about med increases unfortunately... sorry! Maybe phone and ask your doc or NHS Direct or something? Maybe you could phone your doc as soon as they open tomorrow to see if a doc can tell you over the phone? It may not be your GP, but hopefully they will be able to give you a bit more of an idea than I can?
Glad you got some sleep yesterday... I know what insomnia is like and how frustrating it is to be too tired to function only too well. What is your night time routine like? Do you turn off your computer at least an hour before bed time and read a magasine in bed until you can barely keep your eyes open or listen to your favourite radio station or anything?
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Yeah I do all that. Even have a camomile tea. I drop off but wake up within seconds. So spend all night just waking e very few seconds.its horrible because all I do is thing of my sleep all day everyday
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How about a bit of reverse psychology (or whatever it's called)? Tell yourself that you're too busy and there is too much still to do and you're not tired yet etc etc and spend all night defrosting the fridge and doing the ironing and deep cleaning the carpets etc... make things up if you struggle to find enough to keep you going all night and really get stuck in to it all so that you don't have time to even think about sleeping... spend a couple of sleepless nights and days like that and you'll find that you collapse into bed in exhaustion and fall asleep because you are so tired.
Are you very creative? If you are, challenge yourself to bake and decorate a cake in the early hours or write a novella before midnight or paint/draw/colour a new piece of art before 2am or something like that? If you have any hobbies, spend the night sorting out your CD collection or researching something or studying a distance learning course etc.
Is there something you've always wanted to try but you keep talking yourself out of for whatever reason? Give it a go during the night while you're awake... post on forums, read emails, talk to people across the world from you etc... make use of the quiet times to do things just for you.
Hopefully if you try not to sleep, it'll just happen from pure exhaustion after a couple of days ;)
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yeah. i think i will do something like that just to break the cycle of fearing sleeptime. could relax and watch some of my favourite comedies. i cant draw for toffee.
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Tell yourself that you don't want to sleep, you want to watch the telly and stuff until you fall asleep on the sofa or whatever. Do things that will keep you awake so that you're too exhausted not to sleep the next day... might take a few days, but with every day that passes you'll get more and more wiped out until your body goes along with the "must sleep" road and you'll be able to sleep until your body recovers then you just repeat the process every time you go to bed! :happy0158:
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Hi. Yeah that's an interesting thought my mood has lifted significantly today, I actually feel happy. Slept yesterday with another zopiclone. After tonight gonna try without. Don't feel the mirtazapine does much at 45mg for sleep. Also starting taking a magnesium supplement which helps anxiety. For the first time in a week I got a little hope for the future
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As long as you don't mind dark circles under your eyes, it's what worked for me! Now I just take me AD and AP, stay downstairs until I can barely keep my eyes open, then read a magasine until my body pleads for sleep lol
How would you feel about asking your GP to test your vitamin levels? I'm low in B12 and really feel it when I forget to take the pills... maybe it's the same for you too?
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taking b12 already. got my diabetic nurse tomorrow. so will see what she says
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I hope things go well with your nurse today! Hopefully she'll be able to help with other suggestions too :happy0158:
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They testing my thyroid again.might not go to bed today. Just the thought of sleep makes me panic
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:bye: sorry I haven't posted here until now. My husband got diagnosed with sleep apnea 4 years ago and did try using the machine but a few masks later stopped. I wonder at times what needs to happen for him to realize how serious the condition can be.
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yeah. its pretty dangerous when your oxygen levels drop. my wife dont like it when i take zopiclone cos i still not been confirmed on the sleep apnoa front. but she says my breathing and snoring is worse
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Steve used the mask for a few weeks and he did feel better using it, but stopped for some reason! I hope you get the diagnosis and help soon, Joe!
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im having a great day so far. feeling positive and not stressing about my sleep. think its the only way im gonna beat this is not to let sleep prob affect my mood. :D
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That's awesome, Joe! I hope it continues like that for you! :happy0158:
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not so good now. hate feeling up and down all the time. get really anxious as bedtime approaches :(
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Is it possible for you to sleep during the day? If you can, how about going to bed at lunchtime instead of at night? Or go to sleep whenever you're tired, no matter what the time is? Maybe make yourself believe you are working the nightshift or something? Maybe you can have a word with your doc about what you're going through to see if there's anything they can suggest?
:hug: if you want it!
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im just not sure what to do. i got a book on overcoming insomnia and it says stay awake all day otherwise u wnt sleep at nightime, but i need zopiclone anyway. suppose i could lie on the couch and watch tv and see what happens
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Ah right, OK, going to sleep at lunchtime and slowly pushing myself to go to bed at night instead of during the day was what worked for me is all :smile: You need to find what works for you though :tongue0015:
If you can fall asleep but not in bed, maybe you need to replace the mattress to see if that helps? That's another thing I did this year and I fall asleep so much easier now :happy0158:
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hi. last few days i have had great sleep. felt fantastic all day today. but for some reason my body is stressing, cant work out why. is it my brain trying to ruin all the good work i have done or is it the mirt just not working???
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I'm not a doc so can't answer your question, but maybe make an appointment with your doc to ask? Maybe a phone appointment initially? Explain to the receptionist that it's just a question about your meds so do you need to go in person or is a phone appointment more appropriate sorta thing? :chin:
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I too really struggle when I cannot sleep. For me I cannot sleep because my anxiety levels are so high. I know how depressing it can be being wide awake at night and the feelings of helplessness.
I can understand why the even thought of sleep might make you panic. For me the thought of no sleep makes me panic as I have had very poor mental health after a few days of no sleep. The brain started to play tricks on me and I became very anxious. The best thing I found when I struggle with sleep is to try and relax. Easier said than done! There's some good you tube videos on relaxation, meditation ect which I found helped distract my anxious mind. I also got a prescription of zolpidem (I'm allergic to zopiclone) to try and make myself fall asleep again. I set a goal to get ready for bed come 10pm. I am still doing this and am finding that the days I "prepare" to go to sleep with unwinding for the day and relaxing for bed are the days I am able to get off to sleep easier. The days I just go to bed without winding down I find are the days I'm lying awake until 3am worrying and feeling very awake. Hope some of these tips that have helped me helps you :)