Depression Forums
General => The Lounge => Topic started by: Zaf on July 18, 2012, 07:17:26 PM
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Channel 4 on Monday 10pm, might be worth watching
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Thanx Zaf. Will put in on record. S x x
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Saw a preview on the One Show so hope its as good as it looks
Z xx
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Its good that these celebrities are talking about mental health x x
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I think so too, she seemed determine to raise the issue to help get rid of the stigma
Z xx
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That sounds good, so many people suffer and are scared of talking about it. S x x x x
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I thought itvwas a pity it wasnt on earlier but at least it got a mention on the One show just after 7pm
Z xxx
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She entered a serious depression with catatonia and was diagnosed as bipolar.
She set up a web forum to help others, it cost a lot of money and it was a stupid idea but people went along with her because of who she is. Her idea was that there would be an individual forum for every single type of depression sufferer imaginable, and from every different kind of conceivable background. The result was literally dozens if not hundreds) of individual forums one one site and nowhere near enough people to populate them.
Personally I think this forum is much better.
Psychologically I think speaking out when famous helps such people to fight stigma. Most people do not grow up wanting to be nuts, so when they suddenly suffer from mental illness it is difficult for them to incorporate it into their ego. What better way to accept something that you find completely ego dystonic than by being able to get the world to accept you for who you are.
For the rest of us we just have to make do with being stigmatised, loose friends, respect and careers.
It sounds very cynical but nevertheless is makes sense. However, I am grateful for these people who fight the stigma, we still have a long way to go to fight it, but it is a start at least, and I hope more people with mental illness speak up and try to fight in this way.
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I agree that it's good to see more and more people speaking out about their experiences. The sooner this illness is treated like any other illness, rather than being stigmatised and hidden away, the better
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I agree, the short interview with her yesterday promoting the program was in itself very forthright how depression should be considered as any other illness, we definitely need more people speaking out like this
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hi everyone
the ruby wax program is kicking off a season of programs around mental health programs on tuesday at ten there is a program looking at ocd (no i am not going after the record for the most times program is used in one sentence)
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Is that on channel 4 too?
Z x
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shame has to be ruby wax she has always irritated us
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I must admit she irritates me too
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Me to ;) but will watch anyway, hopefully it will be an interesting watch.
S x x
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suppose if she aint doing the annoying fake comedy act and just talking may be interesting just wish all celebs that suffer could get together and do a 90min show on depression
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I think more are speaking out now which can only be a good thing
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There does seem to be more coming out and talking about their depression, which highlights the illness for all of us.
S x x x x
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yes apparently c4 are doing a season on mental health
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I hope its a worthwhile series and addresses the subject properly
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Same here x x
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American consumer brashness mixed with hypomania/mania - results in her being particularly loud mouthed. I am sure she is nice in real life and I am grateful to her for the work she is doing.
I wish I could view these programs but I will not be able to.
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Interesting that the chef, Johnnie Mountain is going to be featured considering this episode on tGBM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7P2At7V7Wo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7P2At7V7Wo)
I have to say I felt for him when I saw that programme because I would have been just as bad even if I didn't show it quite so much. Marcus Wareing did seem to come out looking quite nasty though. I didn't know he had problems with depression but it figured to see that look of utter frustration as if everything depended on it.
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Will Young was on Chris Evans' show on Radio 2 on Friday morning, talking about his depression. Maybe I'm being over hopeful, but with more famous people coming "out", maybe the stigma will start to lessen
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The thing is, famous people, particularly entertainers have always had more allowance to be in such a way. I think it's important to see the less likely people come out and basically show that it can affect anyone. There is also a level of detachment from these celebrities which leaves many members of the public with no real sympathy. What some people said about Amy Winehouse (pre- and post- death) was a good example.
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I was impressed by the MPs that talked about heir depression a few weeks ago
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Not to forget Stephen Fry, who has been open about his problem with manic-depression for years.
I love him for that. Its amazing, that people like Ruby Wax, Stephen Fry or Eddie Izzard, who are professional comedians suffer from depression, in fact a lot of creative people do.
I still think though that it does make a difference whether you are famous or just a person who has an everyday job and lives an everyday life.
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I have put it on to record the series.
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I'll check to make sure its set to record too, I think I did ::)
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It was good, and better still, it had REAL people talking about their depression. Well done them!
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Not to forget Stephen Fry, who has been open about his problem with manic-depression for years.
I love him for that. Its amazing, that people like Ruby Wax, Stephen Fry or Eddie Izzard, who are professional comedians suffer from depression, in fact a lot of creative people do.
I still think though that it does make a difference whether you are famous or just a person who has an everyday job and lives an everyday life.
I actually think the humour is quite common in depressives, it's just a good way of improving your mood and also being accepted by others. I also think that the condition goes well with creativity because creativity is given permission to come and go unlike more practical abilities.
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Totally agree with Joe
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I saw the first third or so then fell asleep, RW still irritates me but what I saw was good, will watch the test later!
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I really liked watching the programme yesterday and felt so much better.
I can see that she can be irritating, but most of the time, when she is really listening and you can see how she identifies with the people who tell her about their depression, there is genuine care.
I sort of thought, well , if you have the money to be going to the Priory....!!! most of us don't....
but I am glad she is better.
Also it was interesting to watch how she coped with it when her children were younger (about the same age as my children are 11 and 13). How she wanted to protect them. Now that they are grown up, its open.
Its such a relief to openly talk about depression. :D
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I thought the interview with her docor was interesting and lthough my husband s very understanding about my depression I'm going to ask him to watch that bit.
My thoughts about the Priory were very similar - if you have money you can get the treatment you need when you need it, no waiting 12 months for 6 half hour sessions of counselling and a well meaning doctor that has limited experience ith the illness.
RW came over as very sincere despite being irritating (I think its the voice), its good to get the subject out in the open, pity it couldnt have been earlier in the evening and on a main channel
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Yes. Doctor seemed to be a very pleasant character. ::)
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Strange 2 say,but I really enjoyed the programme. I think what she is doin is great 2 highlight the plight of ppl suffering with mental health issue. And proving that they can be normal ppl as well as the next Joe Blogs.
Also just finished watching the maddest job interview. The process they went through was very interesting,and the outcome even more so. It made me cringe listening 2 the employers opinions of ppl with mental health at the beg of the programme.
I see myself as a liability because I am off work. I know I have added extra stress to the ppl who have had 2 pick up after me while I am off. But I also know that I am very good at my job and always have high praise for what I do. So why should me bein of with depression be different 2 bein off for tripping and breaking my leg?
Like ruby wax said,we have illness for every other part of the body why not the brain??
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She definitely is doing something fantastic, its really great she's highlighting the illness
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If Im honest watching the programme was a help to me and in a way helped me with my first post on this Forum.
Getting past the stigma is a huge thing for me. Sorry if that sounds daft but just that small bit of encouragement has helped..
I really do struggle with concentrating on TV but it was one programme in fact the only programme ive watched in a very long time.
Ant.
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It doesnt sound daft at all Ant, its very difficult to get over the stigma unfortunately
Z xx
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That doesnt sound daft at all Ant!
The stigma surrounding mental health issues is absolutely awful. Only now after nearly 17ish years of suffereing myself am i able to say, i have depression. Its part of me. I have good times, sometimes bad, but that doesnt change who i am. And it is something that i have had to LEARN not to be ashamed of because of other peoples thoughts and opinions.
That programme was worth airing if only one person has sought help because of it. Getting help and opening up is hard to do, but you have done it. So welcome to the forum and well done for coming to speak to us!
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I recently "came out" about my own depression to some people around me. Somehow I struggle with feeling shame, often embarrassed. I found most people didn't flinch... made me wonder why I'd hidden it all these years.