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Depression Related Forums => Depression Central => Topic started by: mrmoody on May 15, 2012, 10:19:56 AM
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sometimes I just dont see the point anymore the point anymore in asking for help,not here or anywhere.whats the point?Its just going over and over the same old ground and it doesnt really help me get better. the only thing that would help me get better is having my kids back in my life and my ex being reasonable,having a job and decent place to love,my mum or dad back in my life. The things that matter i.e people. I cant make people love me eh,I cant make them be forgiving or caring or kind towards me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sW3zoANMp4
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I see the point of this place as somewhere to go for support rather than help, it's down to the NHS for that. It's just nice to have a chat and talk freely about things that you might not share with others.
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Personally the only way I got help was to try to change my life and that was down to good counselling. I'm still struggling with it but I know what makes me worse and what can help now so its up to me to try those things even though they are very difficult.
coming here helps because people here understand and are supportive and because I can help others when I feel well enough
Z xx
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I get like that at times and have been feeling like that recently. It's tough going and hard to get out of the space. When I do I get to the point that I can't take feeling like that so talk to friends.
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I guess I was speaking more for myself than others here
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All those things are incredibly important to you Alex and imo rightly so, sometimes counselling etc can help as it shows you ways of looking at things differently or tackling problems in alternative ways.
You will always get support here
Z xx
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I've tried counselling in the past and it didn't really help. I did think about a couple of things differently but nothing that really made any big changes. I totally understand what you're saying. I know what will make me happy again and no amount of naval gazing is going to change that. The medication is just putting off the pain we feel about the situation by making us care less. It doesn't change anything tangible.
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Counselling certainly wont change a lot of things in life but I found it very useful in helping me see things differently and in fact it did actually help me find a way of changing my life in a positive way even though Ive taken a very long while to realise that the changes were possible.
It wont make people like me if they dont and I'm sure it wouldnt help me get my kids back if I was in that situation but it did help me feel strong enough to tackle things that I was shying away from so perhaps in that way counselling could help.
We are all different and some things work for us and some things dont but personally medication in conjunction with counselling works best for me
Z x
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I echo what Zaf has said.
Counselling and medication seem to be the best combination for a lot of people, sure it won't work for everyone. I think the idea is that the medication ease some of the symptoms which then allows you to more readily have a positive attitude to counselling and help to change the thought processes.
Ok neither counselling or meds would help solve specific situations but they can help by changing a persons outlook on life and this in turn may change the way that others perceive them.
In my case, I know that the main thing that will help me is the meds, counselling will help me look at things in a different ways.
Buttercup xxx
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I apologize if I'm coming across quite negative, but frankly I'm sick of it all.
After 30 years as an adult, nothing has worked. I'm still stuck where I was when I was 18, except I've had sex. Lol
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I don't think anything should worry about being negative, that's the great thing about this place anyone can have a rant. After all everyone is entitled to their own views and beliefs.
Love Buttercup xxx
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Buttercup is right, this is a horrible illness and we all need to have a rant or a moan from time, I've suffered on and off since at least the early 90's and just now feeling acutely how much of my life has been taken by it :(
Medication, good counselling and rest seem the only things that help me but sometimes the slightest thing can send me spiralling downwards again
Z xx
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I know how you feel, Alex. I'm at the point of giving up, although I am seeing two CPNs later, sort of a last resort. Everything has just got too much, my wife now is on fluoxetine, it's all such a mess.
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All I can say is that this forum has been such a great help to me, along with meds and counselling. But everyone of us are different and what works for one does not work for another. Another thing that I have realised is that rest is very important, before when depression has hit I have fought it and tried to carry on, but now I know I have to rest and just listen to my body and mind.
S x x x x
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I agree with shaz, this forum has been a godsend, the support is fantastic :)
My biggest difficulty with rest is the guilt feelings, I'm still working on them...
Z x
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Same here Zaf, we shouldn't feel guilty but we do. But we can't help being the way we are.
S x x x x
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Rest is a problem here too, I'm sat here thinking I really should be doing something :-\
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it wasnt a criticism of this forum or anyone that uses it, althought some forums I have used have added to my woes and anxiety(not mentioning any names eh Shaz lol). It just it gets to a point where with all the pain inside it seems like beyond redemption. Its hell basically, thats what it is a living hell. Yes of course it means alot that you lot understand and I always feel less alone and less of a weirdo after using any depression forum! It helps in the same way I guess a good stroll can help, not to fix you but just lift your mood abit.
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Well Mr Moody, knowing there are other people who are out there who have very similar issues has helped me a little. I feel less like a freak.
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I have always felt a freak, even before depression. Now I am learning to embrace it and all my freak friends I have like George and Steve and Rob who are all highly intelligent but live on the periphary of life. And not in a 'I am a psychopath' type way either lol
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I've always felt as though I didn't fit in and wasnt 'normal' for a lot of reasons, I believe that part of the reason I have depression is because of that - I put on a 'normal' front but inside I'm very different
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Same here Zaf.
I also have always felt like a freak and didn't really fit in. I understand exactly how you feel.
Xxx
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well heres to being a freak and always on the outside looking in! long may it last!
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Perhaps its us thats normal and the rest of the world that isnt?
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Well said Zaf, perhaps thats why we all get on so well on here ;).
S x x x x
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I do agree Mr moody i go through periods of years where im well and dare i say it 'normal' and then outta nowhere blam!! it's there again and i think i just dont have the energy anymore why do i have to keep going through this why can't life just be easy. I dont know what came first the freaky or the depression i was always a weird little kid, but a happy one i think until my teen years which is normal right, all that teenage angst, hating your parents and the world in general, i guess everyone thought i would grow out of it but hey ho here i am, at least we have places like this to vent to people that get it.
So thanks for that :)
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what I was trying to say is, sometimes it gets so much that I think whats the point in posting on a depression forum, whats the point in cbt, whats the point in cpn's and medication and doctors when every bloody day it feels so bad and never changes. Whether you feel a freak or odd or whatever, so what, you could be a happy freak or oddball, its not that that is the problem. All the time I feel like posting something and then I dont bother as I think whats the point, it never gets better and the pain doesnt go away.
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I guess it could be a lot worse without all thse things - I feel worse if I try to reduce my meds or dont rest enough and I certainly dont want to go back to the low I suffered July last year
Z xx
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Like you said to me...........maybe one day the pain will go away.
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I think sometimes we just get too tired to keep up the fight :(
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I speak only personally. Using depression forums is not futile. over the years I have met some good people via them.I just come on some days and want to say ' I feel like &$%+ and want to take my life' and I just cant be bothered to post.
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I know how you feel, sometimes I wonder if anything anyone does for me is going to help, because it doesn't feel like it. I feel like I am going to be stuck like this forever, that its never going to get better. I don't think I will ever be happy, I can't seem to make friends with anyone and my parents don't really want to know either. I was in a session with my counsellor today and she used the phrase ' you feel that even your own mother doesn't like you' reality hit me so hard I thought I was going to throw up. No one really likes me and there is nothing I can do to change it, no amount of help will make people want to like me will it ?
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I get what you're saying and you're right in that posting doesn't change certain situations. I guess I post because just typing my thoughts out helps me, I also find it very helpful when I am in a really bad patch, just posting gets me through. But that's just me and everyone deals with their feelings and emotions in different ways.
For me it takes away the sense of being alone, but then there are times when you just don't want to talk. I know for me it won't go away and that's something I have to come to terms with.
Xxx
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I hear you Icelolly, my parents dont talk to me anymore even though I love them both and miss them.and I likes ya. email me anytime. Alex