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Title: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 17, 2012, 12:35:29 PM
Ohh I slept soooo well I just cannot believe it!!!!! This is what real sleep feels like!!!!
Why on earth did that stupid GP keep me on citalopram for so long???
Thank you venlafaxin for making me relax last night and now helping me sleep beautifully... I hope my mood improves steadily now instead of up and down like the past few months on evil, evil citalopram!!!
Big hug to everyone, hope you are all well today.... %^% *()
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Sweetpea on October 17, 2012, 02:50:42 PM
Thats so good to hear  $%$.  Having a good nights sleep makes so much difference. 

S x x x x
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 17, 2012, 03:17:59 PM
Definitely thanks Shaz!
I have had a dip a bit now though, feeling a bit weird and thinking "what if I get worse", "what if it doesn't work"....
Hubby telling me not to worry and that fluctuations are to be expected during the crossover but I am worried a bit....
Nevermind, hopefully tonight my mood will lift again.

Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Sweetpea on October 17, 2012, 04:25:25 PM
Its hard for you not to think this way, as we tend to look for how we feel, I know I do still.  Thinking of you.

S x x x x
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 17, 2012, 04:27:55 PM
Thanks Shaz, yes I think it is normal. That's very kind of you !+_
I am re-reading "Depressive Illness- the Curse of the Strong" as the passage about recovery truly helps and gives you hope!
Since feeling a bit low earlier I have managed to do a bit of work for my business so that's helping I think!!
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Sweetpea on October 17, 2012, 04:29:54 PM
Thats good to hear, keeping your mind off it helps.  Also reading positive books  %^%.

S x x x x
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 17, 2012, 04:32:48 PM
Yes deffo!!!!
It's funny as I am not too sure how I am feeling (if that makes sense) I just hope the meds crossover is not going to be a big nasty storm....
The way I am seeing it at the moment is that I was starting to recover slowly "by myself" (hence sooo much suffering and so up and down + random symptoms coming and going) so getting rid of citalopram is not going to cause a tsunami I don't think!!!
Thank you so much for your help Shaz, your experience is giving me hope too!
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Sweetpea on October 17, 2012, 08:08:43 PM
How are you feeling this evening?  S x x x x

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Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 17, 2012, 08:18:48 PM
Hello Shaz thank so much for asking!
Have you had a good day?
My friend asked me if I wanted to go shopping with her at 6. I wasn't sure at first as I felt maybe I would panic but my hubby said "give it a go, you're usually better in the evening + socializing usually takes your mind off things". So I went (after taking venlafaxin + my friend knows what I am going through so I can confide in her) and it went fairly well. I didn't enjoy myself as much as I normally would but I wasn't suffering either if that makes sense. Again, I can feel venlafaxin helping me relax so that's very welcome too! I hope it helps me sleep well again. My friend said compared to Sunday I looked a lot more "refreshed" (citalopram was certainly not helping me sleep grrr!!).
Looking back, I really think citalopram didn't help at all, can't believe I tried to stick with it for so long!
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Sweetpea on October 17, 2012, 08:31:48 PM
Hi had a good day thanx. Had a bit of retail therapy this afternoon 2 tops and some leggings and several pairs of earrings lol. Good to hear you decided to go out with your friend, it helps when friends and family understand. We don't feel the need to put on the 'I am fine' face. S x x x x

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Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 17, 2012, 09:37:18 PM
Oooh retail therapy hey!!! Nice!!
I am so glad I have been able to keep my online business going despite being really bad with depression as it brings in some most welcome pennies hehe!
I am still off work, the longest I have ever been, again I blame citalopram!!!!
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 18, 2012, 01:19:52 PM
Booh, slept loads again (until 1pm!) but feeling my mood not being too good since waking up. Not feeling anxiety but "bleurgh" if that makes sense and worrying I am not going to be able to get back to my happy self or that I am going to relapse and not be able to stay well etc.... I know it's the illness talking but it's painful!!
Going to try to keep myself busy, hopefully it will lift and this evening will be good again.
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Buttercup on October 18, 2012, 02:02:54 PM
I guess the citalopram will be out of your system around now and it will take a bit longer for the other stuff to kick in.

Xxx
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 18, 2012, 02:15:02 PM
I am still taking half citalopram.
The difference is HUGE between my sleep and levels of relaxation, it's incredible!
As for mood, it's lifting a bit already probs thanks to the sleep. I ♥ venlafaxin!
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Buttercup on October 18, 2012, 02:18:28 PM
I've never been on venlafaxin or citalopram. I hope that your mood continues to improve. Xxxx
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 18, 2012, 02:22:15 PM
Me too, I think what I am mostly happy about is the difference between the amount of suffering I was going through with citalopram, I feel like I did it all by myself and it was just so slow and so painful, getting worse and worse before getting just a little bit better..... how horrible :s
What are you on?
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Buttercup on October 18, 2012, 02:29:07 PM
At the moment I'm not taking anything, partly through choice. I was on Fluoxetine for a short time at the beginning of the year but they made me hypomanic (I'm bipolar) so I changed to Lamotrigine, but came out in a rash. At the moment I'm mildly depressed so I agreed with psychiatrist that I'd leave meds for a bit and restart later if I need to.

In the mean time I she her every few months and my support worker weekly, I'm doing a WRAP plan with her which helps.

Xxx
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 18, 2012, 03:12:15 PM
I see, wow well done on not taking anything!
I wish I could but without a good antidepressant I am like a plant without fertiliser!
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Buttercup on October 18, 2012, 05:45:46 PM
I don't know how I cope to be honest.  My Psychiatrist has put on my notes that I should avoid anti depressants, they turn me high too quickly.  Apart from the lamotrigine the other drugs on offer have nasty side effects so I aim to use them at as low a dose as possible.  For me I know I will take meds at some point but right now I'm trying to lose weight and this is easier when not on the meds.

I am almost constantly in a mildly depressive state with some dips that are a bit lower, I have my children to thank for a lot of how I cope, if it wasn't for them I would spend most of the time in bed but I get up in the morning to go to school or work and cook dinner in the evening, its normally a battle.  When I'm really bad though, these things go as well.

How are you feeling now?
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 18, 2012, 07:15:15 PM
Wow, it sounds like you are doing admirably well!
I have just posted a new thread "is this normal" and perhaps as you have bipolar you will be able to answer my post please?
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Buttercup on October 18, 2012, 07:22:59 PM
Thank you, ^-^ I don't feel I do a good job, it's a bit of a battle.

I will have a look ^-^
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 18, 2012, 07:26:00 PM
I am sure you do a great job, remember not to be harsh on yourself when you have to battle bipolar and being a mummy too!!
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 19, 2012, 10:37:05 AM
Thank you!
A bit low this morning, didn't sleep as long as two previous mornings (although until 10am so still good) and now worried about "how long before I am back to my happy self" / "what if I relapse every month even before I even get completely better" / "maybe my case is really bad" / "maybe the doctors aren't telling me how bad the situation is" / "maybe I have it worse than most people" etc etc etc!!!
Silly negative thoughts! Let's hope they go away as the day unfolds :)
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Catbrian on October 19, 2012, 07:34:06 PM
Please believe me, all of us experience what you're going through.  I wrote on another one of your posts, everyone gets anxious that their new-found good mood might come to an abrupt end.  You probably will have dips along the way, but I'm sure you'll bounce back, just like everyone else does.
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Sweetpea on October 19, 2012, 08:13:34 PM
I understand how you are feeling. Its so easy to let our minds run wild with all the negative thoughts. S x x x x

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Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 19, 2012, 08:56:24 PM
Thank you Cat and Shaz!!!
Not feeling that as much tonight, I have just mopped the kitchen floor and feeling fairly pleased after 4 months of torture that the meds are helping!
What I have learnt out of it though is, if you are not on a medication that works for you (i.e. if you are on nothing essentially!).... you get worse and worse for 3 months, then you get the odd okay day here and there although you are still in enormous pain and I am sure eventually you would get out of it but it would probably take a year or two.... no kidding :s
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Sweetpea on October 19, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
I am so glad the meds are making you feel better. Its lovely when you find a medication that works. I know I was starting to feel like I would never be 'me' again. S x x x x 

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Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 19, 2012, 09:07:08 PM
I was starting to feel I was hanging on by my nails if that makes sense and just didn't know what was going to happen next but I was terrified :s
I still have lows where I worry but overall it's nothing short of a miracle being able to feel better like that!
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Sweetpea on October 19, 2012, 09:11:49 PM
I felt the same when I was put on Duloxetine. After so long of feeling damned awful. S x x x x

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Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 19, 2012, 09:17:14 PM
I know, so painful gah!
I wish that stupid doc had listened to me when I told her it was not helping me! xxxx
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Sweetpea on October 19, 2012, 09:20:55 PM
Its so frustrating when we are not listened to (http://depressionforums.co.uk/dpf/mobiquo/emoji/E40E.png). S x x x x

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Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: Catbrian on October 19, 2012, 09:49:30 PM
I know exactly what you mean Bookletters.  Doctor's only know the text book stuff and many aren't that interested in depression to want to step outside the box.  In my experience, it is best to insist on doing it "my way".  If you feel something aint working, stick to your guns.

Off to bed now.  Hope you have a good nights rest
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 19, 2012, 09:59:46 PM
I wish I had done that at first when I knew it was not happening with citalopram... ah well!
Night night xx
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on October 19, 2012, 10:00:07 PM
Think Willows need some support xx
Title: Re: Meds crossover update!
Post by: bookletters on November 05, 2012, 01:25:09 PM
Off to see the GP this afternoon as after a week of "1 day take 20mg citalopram 1 day take nothing" I am feeling lots of anxiety, stress, irritability, neediness etc and not happy about it!!!
Off to see if perhaps doc can wean me off more slowly....
Hope everyone is doing well today xxx