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my wife has clinical depression.
« on: January 07, 2012, 12:02:07 PM »
Hi my wife has been struggling with depression for 8 months now.probably longer.and really need help the whole family has been under attack she has been on meds and therapy.and have done my best to keep life peaceful for her and over Christmas I've had cuddled and kisses on the cheak kids have more interaction as well which they really needed. The thing is she explained to me last night that she still wants to end her life.I really am lost now.I'm so emotional as there is nothing I can do.I feel like I don't have a right to help my own wife. I love her so much.and she explained that she can't be bothered to keep anyone happy.read all the websites on depression and read the posts on here and it all relates to our situation.I'm hanging in there for us all the kids 8 and 6 sort of understand.but I don't want to have to do what the doctors and my councillor advised me to do months ago.take the kids and leave as depression can be tought and home is where they learn most.I could never do this unless absolutely had to.just need someone to explain the when does it subside enough to for her to feel something

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2012, 12:14:25 PM »
hi, i cannot help you but it must be terrible for you and the kids, im sure theres something you can do and work something out.
i hope it all works out for you in the end.

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2012, 12:35:36 PM »
Hi tarle and welcome

I'm sorry to hear you're going through such a tough time,  as someone thats had depression several times over the last 20 odd years I'll try to explain as best I can how depression makes me feel and perhaps others will do the same so you get some idea what a depressed person goes through.

I become crushingly tired, its not a normal tiredness but as though all the life has been drained out of me, some days I cant get out of bed and others I can only get up for an hour or so when I'm at my worst,  on at least two occasions Ive had a breakdown where I have panic attacks and get agorophobia to the extent that sometimes I cant even bear the curtains open to look outside,  I also become very anxious and have mood swings.

I too have been suicidal many times, its not a reflection on my husband who is truly wonderful coping with my illness, even when I am horrible to him for no reason, he copes with full time and a part time work as well as helping his parents and my mum who are both ill, he also does a huge amount for me when I'm bad but still at times I have no feelings for him (or anyone or anything).

I have little or no interest in doing any of the things I would normally enjoy and even if I did feel like doing them often I wont have the energy,  sometimes even reading a page or two from a book is impossible,  at times if someone told me I had won the jackpot on the Euromillions I'd not even be able to raise a smile let along become excited.

I'm sure there are other common symptoms that Ive forgotten, it may help you to read this article to understand what depressive illness is and how it can affect people,  there is also a little book that does the same  http://www.familyhealthguide.co.uk/depressive-illness-the-curse-of-the-strong.html

If you want to ask anything please do and I'll answer you as honestly and fully as I can xx
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2012, 01:00:36 PM »
Thank you for the link.I know that its an illness but is there a truth in what she thinks .she has cut out her friends and says that they left her.her lies are fantastic even saying things that hurt the kids just don't understand how to deal with her.I know she is not having an affair or having one but its like she wants me to think she having one her iPhone games are her only friends .its been assest as a disturbed child hood which it was.but it seems like she wants to give our kids the same pain.is it right do u think that I should not give up on my cuddles and affection did u feel u needed them or wanted them.did ie husband feel as thought he should pull back for his own safety I'm sorry but I need to spill my guts.

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2012, 01:12:15 PM »
no problem at all

I dont have kids so I cant answer your question about that,  and of course we all have different symptoms when we are ill with depression so how I feel may not be the same as how your wife feels.   I do neglect all my friends when I am depressed as I dont feel I can cope with them, even the ones that know about my illness and I probably tell white lies when they ask me to go out etc and I dont feel like it.

Its difficult to say what do do about cuddles as sometimes I really cant even bear my husband near me and other times I do,  he has lived with this for 20 years and I think he understands and reads the signals these days but I know at first he was very confused and unhappy :(  I dont think he was ever worried about his safety though.

I wonder if you have thought about some sort of joint counselling to find out how she is feeling?
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 01:31:00 PM »
She walked out of marriage counciling .over something I should have said.well what she interpreted.don't mean physical safety.she knows I run better on cuddles and no conflict.. I just don't trust the advice the specialist give me or my wife they may have a book and a degree but its not as easy as they think.meds are working I think but her advice from her care team was to divorce me.and why she says its nothing I have done.fair enough but why do they encourage something they know would make the situation worse. My wife on her own to get more depressed and end up killing her self.angers me .yet again sorry but eight months of this. Many thanks.

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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2012, 01:38:03 PM »
it seems a very strange for a care team to say,  has your wife been to counselling by herself so she can work out what her feelings are?

Depression can be a very difficult thing to cope with and understand so please dont apologise as youve obviously gone through a lot in the last 8 months :(
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2012, 01:52:44 PM »
tarle1976 this is extrememly difficult for you to cope with. You are distressed and desperate for clarity. It is right for you to feel this way because you love her and you don't want her to feel this way.

I had to deal with all the trappings of a depressed partner too and oh my word do I know how hard it can be. This is the only advice I can think of to give you.

1) The best piece of advice anyone gave me was this 'she is poorly, so she will be doing and saying poorly things'. Keep that in mind and use it as your mantra. The first thing you need to know is that you are dealing with an actual actual broken person. Just as you might be looking at some one in a neck brace and plaster cast, the same level of brokenness is going on inside your wife, but it is internal not external. Your eyes and head will be telling you to expect normality because that is what they can see, but your heart will be feeling pain and confusion and you have to educate them both.

2) No professional should be advising divorce etc. Did you hear this from the professionals mouth with your own ears? if so it is SO unprofessional that I believe it can be discounted. Registered, code of conduct abiding professionals must remain impartial and only help you to come to your own decisions, not theirs. If it came from your wife, you can not believe it. She is poorly, so she will be doing and saying poorily things.

3) How was your relationship before this happened?

4) Involve your children and teach them how to cope. It is maybe not such a good idea to 'hope they are not picking up on anything' because they certainly will be. Give them the tools to cope. Educate them. Childhoods mess up children and adults because an innocent childs mind has had to try to make sense of highly complex problems that it has not yet evolved to capacitate. Consider not yours and your wifes therapy, but therapy for your children. Enlist a specialist qualified, listed, BACP registered therapist, go see them and explain, and formulate a way to talk about, understand, accept and process the challenges your family are facing at present in professional monitored sessions. Make them fun, interractive, whatever you need to do. But don't try to hide it from them or hope they can not see, teach them how to cope.

5) is there a truth in what she thinks? yes! she truly believes that it would be better if her life ended so that she didn't have to deal with this. But what she is actually saying here, is that she wants how she feels to stop and be happy. She just CAN NOT see how that cold happen at the moment. because she is poorly. She is seeing things in a poorly way. The only way she can think of to make this stop is to end her life. but of course there are ways, she just can't see them.

6) You mention that her meds are working, what makes you say this?

7) you are a loving partner supporting your wife. If it feels right to do that then you are doing the right thing. If you or your children are ever in danger, please move out. But this can still be temporary. It doesn't have to be the end of everything for ever. If it is difficult but not dangerous, and it feelins right to continue and you can help you children not to be affected by it and tech them the tools to process this without becomng dmaged by it, then do it.

8) We are right behind you. Get it out in here and let us help. This is an awful situation. Look after yourself so that you don't end up in the same state.

Take Care
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 01:54:16 PM »
Thing is think they become to friendly.yes I take to a different councillor she has two and I don't know what's been said as patient confidence.I'm fine with it unless I hear from my wife snippets maybe there lies I just don't know I waiting for a company called new thoughts to give me an appointment as my doc advised me to see someone else. As I need support and I admite it now .but she has always worried about people helping me as she knows I'm kind and supportive and my advisers told me to toughen up I did.and boy it didn't work may her attacks turn 100 per cent onto me even her family where behind me.so out of character. We have done so well to get what we have.I'm not going to give up.just wish she could see a future soon . Or this illness may claim a nother loving person.

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2012, 02:08:21 PM »
Lol thank u.I know its sounds awful but I needed someone who understands.our marriage was good but she was diagnosed with an under active thiroide three years ago and started going to bed early like eight at night sometimes and I worked till half seven so we started spending less time together I understood but after time it took its tole on us other than that nothing really she spends far too much money but hay I knew that when we married.and being Scottish my wallet stays under the floor boards.lol

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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2012, 02:14:16 PM »
thyroid and depression can be related sometimes. She has been dealing with a lot. Has she had her meds monitored properly? Was there a particular event that made you notice depressive symptoms? You say her meds are working, what makes you say that?

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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2012, 02:29:43 PM »
Just a change in her .but she stopped taking the night meds as she said they made her unfeeling and put on weight.so purely.just the week before she became very sexual towards me like every minute then on her birthday party when everyone went home she stood at our back door in the dark for three hours.and did not speak just stared at nothing.apparently she was saying her goodbye.all very strange she noticed in Jan last years that she didn't think properly but ignored it.

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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2012, 02:53:55 PM »
I don't understand why your wife hasn't had counselling on her own.  It's good that you have had joint counselling but it would be good for her if she had seesions on her own.  I really don't know what to suggest about walking away with your children or staying.  Staying is hard on all of you but your wife knows you must care to stay.  If you went away it could make the situation far worse nor does it solve anything because your wife will still be depressed.

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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2012, 02:58:56 PM »
Was her birthday a milestone one?

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2012, 03:28:27 PM »
32 but she's slim very attractive and she has always seen herself as the opposite.